XP loss needs to go (566 hours play time)

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MrSidious#1498 wrote:

Tho I think the loss XP on death is a bit high 10% would prefer 5% if they don't have one all players would get to level 100 easily and have nothing to work to i am level 91 would be around 96 to 98 if I had not died all the dam time

sorry to say I like the XP loss makes me try to get better and not die as much tho as I said would want 5% tho as 2 bars (10%) is annoying to lose

but that is just my two cents

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GIBAS1996#4295 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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GIBAS1996#4295 wrote:

In terms of the waystone/events loss on death that is not really just a loot only bumper. Your are in some cases forced to replay a extremely worse version of the map. IF that needs to be then so be it but the fact you cannot remodify those map nodes with towers is just unnecessary. They can lose all on the nodes but you should be able to reforge that node. That is what i meant by taking all means of gaining back that progression. I suppose i am failing to explain my full train of thought so i apologize on the confusion on how i am explaining things

I put a solution to that problem already in my last "feedback post", in short, besides other token with various uses we would get a token that allows us to skip a node. In case you "failed" (bug or skill issue doesn't matter) you would progress without the need to run an empty map.

Could that not be abused by just taking a lower level character and just failing bad maps in order to progress to better ones or even just path a way to citadels?

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

It's a combination of both, like it or not. Ppl staying in safer content to farm better gear and grind more levels before pushing higher is a thing.

Well, not for everybody because not everybody cares and pushes anyway, but these ppl normally know the risk and don't complain when they paid for it.

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Yoakar#8952 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

It's a combination of both, like it or not. Ppl staying in safer content to farm better gear and grind more levels before pushing higher is a thing.

Well, not for everybody because not everybody cares and pushes anyway, but these ppl normally know the risk and don't complain when they paid for it.

sure technically, but when its heavily skewed 99/1 towards gear it essentially makes it not a combination of both anymore.

and when people do that they lose waystones and maps and any gear that dropped which is already punishing enough. exp loss is a pointless dated mechanic that is no longer needed since they already have better alternatives.

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BigBeuss#5956 wrote:

first the exp loss for anyone who care about it is 2,5% just using the tool that the game provide. But anyway it should not matter to lvl up at lvl 95, game wont be more enjoyable just because you reach lvl 100, either you like grinding for better gear or you don't. Eventually you'll lvl up just playing the game (or not, so what?), this is not an issue. They should just remove the lvl cap tbh cause it's seems ppl can't figure by themself that it's not the point nor the end game of the game. Make it infinite level who cares lol at least ppl will stop looking at their xp bar thinking their "fun" is tied to it.

I think the death penality in poe 2 are rly moderate so when ppl talk about how extrem they are or compare them to hc i'm having a rly hard time to take them seriously.

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BigBeuss#5956 wrote:

just use omen of amelioration and you lose only 2,5% XP There's no excuse for not using it if you're in late game in trade league, and if you play ssf well that's just an additional farm ladder that is exatly the point of ssf anyway.

Level is still cap by the exponential xp needed, if some crazy dude want to go lvl 110 farming 20k houres good for him lol :D

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

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Solmyr77#1930 wrote:

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JakkerONAIR#4902 wrote:

The "10% exp loss" is in the game for a reason, it's a "check".

If your power is good for what you do - you will earn exp, level up and get stronger.

If your power is not good for what you do - you will die, lose exp and don't level up.

This is soo easy to disprove:

You can fly through t15s with a death every 2 hours at lvl80 and gain levels. Take the same char at lvl 95 and you don't lvl anymore.

That disproves nothing. The deaths on your lvl 80 are just less punishing because your gain outweighs the loss. If you still die that often on your 95 character it clearly shows you don't increased your power level besides gaining levels. So... you die - improve.

The only thing you proved is - levelling gets increasingly slower (with and without deaths) the higher the level.