This is why ill never buy another supporter pack again.

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Rnew1990#5171 wrote:

you are really clueless on what ownership of a company actually means. this (old) bit of news changes nothing. Also nobody forced you to spend thousands of dollars on a F2P game that has given us an insane amount of content over the last 13 years. Stop crying.

I love this, because it essentially says i have no right to say anything or complain about how my purchases are made. Which is complete rubbish. I have been very vocal about only ever wanting the overhaul of poe1, i never wanted a new game with new mechanics. Every purchase i made since the announcement was because i was looking forward to it.

Then we didn't get it, any of it. Some slight graphics overhauls and thats about it and they have all but abandoned it officially. So yeah. I will complain. thanks.

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stormyknight#7628 wrote:

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Rnew1990#5171 wrote:

you are really clueless on what ownership of a company actually means. this (old) bit of news changes nothing. Also nobody forced you to spend thousands of dollars on a F2P game that has given us an insane amount of content over the last 13 years. Stop crying.

I love this, because it essentially says i have no right to say anything or complain about how my purchases are made. Which is complete rubbish. I have been very vocal about only ever wanting the overhaul of poe1, i never wanted a new game with new mechanics. Every purchase i made since the announcement was because i was looking forward to it.

Then we didn't get it, any of it. Some slight graphics overhauls and thats about it and they have all but abandoned it officially. So yeah. I will complain. thanks.

Having the right to express your dissatisfaction or to complain, does not automatically mean that the person you are complaining to is obligated to take action or give a damn about your issue.

GGG can simply ignore you or people often tell whinners to shut up. They are not getting what they want. PoE 2 getting the priority is what GGG decided.

Well with a little bit of luck, SIXJOY will fire Jonathan tho finger crossed

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stormyknight#7628 wrote:

Stop giving your money to tencent

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time to find a new indy company with dreams working from their garage

So anyone found this indy company yet?

I feel like going back to D2 private servers.

I love threads like this.

League of Legends, Baldur Gate 3, Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2, Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Conan Exiles, The Dunes Games, Path of Exile, Path of Exile 2, Fortnite (and probably most of games made with Unreal Engine) and all Ubisoft games.

If you don't want any of your money to go to Tencent, the gaming landscape is getting smaller by the day. And if you don't want to play games on a device that can't be traced back to China, you better start touching some grass.

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

I love threads like this.

League of Legends, Baldur Gate 3, Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2, Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Conan Exiles, The Dunes Games, Path of Exile, Path of Exile 2, Fortnite (and probably most of games made with Unreal Engine) and all Ubisoft games.

If you don't want any of your money to go to Tencent, the gaming landscape is getting smaller by the day. And if you don't want to play games on a device that can't be traced back to China, you better start touching some grass.

Thanks for the list.

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swo0plt#5433 wrote:

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time to find a new indy company with dreams working from their garage

So anyone found this indy company yet?

I feel like going back to D2 private servers.

Dragonkin & Titan Quest 2 are soon to release .

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

I love threads like this.

League of Legends, Baldur Gate 3, Divinity Original Sin 1 and 2, Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Conan Exiles, The Dunes Games, Path of Exile, Path of Exile 2, Fortnite (and probably most of games made with Unreal Engine) and all Ubisoft games.

If you don't want any of your money to go to Tencent, the gaming landscape is getting smaller by the day. And if you don't want to play games on a device that can't be traced back to China, you better start touching some grass.

lol, yep.


notice how most of those are among the least problematic large games in the industry when it comes to monetisation and actually being a game made by devs who care and where possible in a capitalist world put the actual game first?


i dont really understand what the problem is, feels like brainwashing to me.



the west is full of asset strippers, hop around investors and private equity firms looking to cash in, destroy for immediate profit and cash out at the earliest opportunity, and even its biggest long standing devs like blizzard end up being controlled by people like boby kotek who directly fuck with the games and destroy them to look good on the next quarter shareholder report.

whats tencent doing? they dont give a fk about poe in the larger picture of their profits. they dont need to destroy poe to make a buck right now to please a shareholder or to increase a stock price so they can make a quick turnover sale. most of these games individually cant make or break a company this big. tencents revenue in 2023 was over $80,000,000,000, they made 16 billion $ profit. GGGs total profits for that year were less than 0.1% of tencents total profits.


and people on this forum seriously think the guys at tencent are coming into the studio telling mark he needs to make X zone in the campaign a little bigger and reduce the drop rate on Y item to make more money? actual lol, yeah, they really really need that extra 0.0001% on their yearly profits it might gain them to impress their board, theyre losing sleep over it.


fking hell m8s. they probably already made a decent profit on their buy of ggg in 2018, if ggg made 0 money this year it would be an insignificant rounding error on their business operations.







they are obviously not in this for the short term reasons western investors get into these things. what they seem to want is a large portfolio of long lasting, successful companies who make good products. legitimacy, weight and stability in the global landscape. that means buying companies who make good games and letting them make good games.

bobby kotek wanted another fucking yacht and to make his quick buck investors a quick buck, thats the sort of person who runs umbrella corps in the west.

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Ashyev#5110 wrote:

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swo0plt#5433 wrote:

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time to find a new indy company with dreams working from their garage

So anyone found this indy company yet?

I feel like going back to D2 private servers.

Dragonkin & Titan Quest 2 are soon to release .

Yeah I am really looking forward to TQ2, it looked really good in gameplay videos.

Thanks for suggesting Dragonkin... hopefully it's not financed by tencent.