The game has been abandoned

this isn't beta

the game has gone through multiple betas

and it's still trash

We had an enormous balance patch in poe2 like 8 days ago. Is this a troll post?

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

Tell me, what's the difference between a "paid beta" and "early access"? You're free to do some research here, and not just base your answer on your own, internal, subjective logic.

Spoiler

Early access, also known as alpha access, alpha founding, paid alpha, or game preview, is a funding model in the video game industry by which consumers can purchase and play a game in the various pre-release development cycles, such as pre-alpha, alpha, and/or beta, while the developer is able to use those funds to continue further development on the game.

Ah yes, the Wikipedia copy-paste warriors are here.
Your own blind copy from Wikipedia proves the point I'm trying to make.

"Early access" can mean so many things and that's where people's frustrations are coming from. Is this game in alpha? beta? pre-alpha? Is this mostly a complete version of the game and they just need funds to add content on top of it?

"Beta" and "Alpha" are clear on what they mean: this game is very incomplete, full of bugs, imbalances, non-core mechanics may change, etc.

I've pre-purchased games in "early access" in which every fundamental/balancing/mechanic was already consolidated when it was available, and all they needed was to add content on top of that.

The fact GGG has been developing this for years now and has charged $30 for it doesn't help their case.
Just use your common sense. We paid $30 for an early beta access. Accept this fact and everything else will fall in line: unbalances, game feeling broken and boring, etc.

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_rt_#4636 wrote:

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Phrazz#3529 wrote:

Tell me, what's the difference between a "paid beta" and "early access"? You're free to do some research here, and not just base your answer on your own, internal, subjective logic.

Spoiler

Early access, also known as alpha access, alpha founding, paid alpha, or game preview, is a funding model in the video game industry by which consumers can purchase and play a game in the various pre-release development cycles, such as pre-alpha, alpha, and/or beta, while the developer is able to use those funds to continue further development on the game.

Ah yes, the Wikipedia copy-paste warriors are here.
Your own blind copy from Wikipedia proves the point I'm trying to make.

"Early access" can mean so many things and that's where people's frustrations are coming from...

...Just use your common sense. We paid $30 for an early beta access.

Lemme get this straight then - Wikipedia is an invalid source for a very general term, you claim EA can mean SO many things that it's impossible to understand, then finish by calling it "early beta access"

You realize if you change the position of two of those words you have "early access beta" DING DING DING!

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_rt_#4636 wrote:

Just use your common sense. We paid $30 for an early beta access. Accept this fact and everything else will fall in line: unbalances, game feeling broken and boring, etc.[/span]

I used Wiki as an example that "early access" can indeed, as you say yourself, mean a lot of things - so your expectation coming into the game is solely based on subjectivity, and not what an "early access" is or isn't.

I agree with everything here; unbalanced, game feeling broken and boring. The difference between us, is that I was totally expecting it. Paying $30 doesn't change anything. I've played (and payed for) "early access" titles that was hardly playable, and no matter how you turn things around, PoE 2 is more than playable and tons of people are clearly having fun.

Just not us. Which is fine.

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Snorkle_uk#0761 wrote:

can we just have normal conversations on the forums? shall we stop playing games? were all adults here, lets have serious adult conversations and not talk to each other like 7 year olds in a playground.

Snorkle, if I didn't know any better, I'd say you were new here :D