Waystone Sustain has killed this game for me.

everyone I know has like 500 waystones in their stash

A bunch of people have now chimed in to declare that they are doing T15 maps and have tonnes of T15 maps and below. That's great. I'm doing T11 maps and I have tonnes of T1-T4 maps. If someone is doing T4 maps and has run out of them, I would not feel the need to chime in and tell them "I don't see the problem, I'm running T11 maps and I have tonnes of T4 maps. I don't see the problem?"

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voodoochile78#9787 wrote:

A bunch of people have now chimed in to declare that they are doing T15 maps and have tonnes of T15 maps and below. That's great. I'm doing T11 maps and I have tonnes of T1-T4 maps. If someone is doing T4 maps and has run out of them, I would not feel the need to chime in and tell them "I don't see the problem, I'm running T11 maps and I have tonnes of T4 maps. I don't see the problem?"

Except tier15 is the highest one that drops, and also the hardest one to sustain.

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Tumulten#3988 wrote:

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voodoochile78#9787 wrote:

A bunch of people have now chimed in to declare that they are doing T15 maps and have tonnes of T15 maps and below. That's great. I'm doing T11 maps and I have tonnes of T1-T4 maps. If someone is doing T4 maps and has run out of them, I would not feel the need to chime in and tell them "I don't see the problem, I'm running T11 maps and I have tonnes of T4 maps. I don't see the problem?"

Except tier15 is the highest one that drops, and also the hardest one to sustain.

Entirely missed the point. It doesn't help me that you, a T15 mapper, have tonnes of T11 maps in your stash. Likewise, it doesn't behoove me, a T11 mapper, to tell some T4 mapper that I have tonnes of T4 maps in my stash tab.

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voodoochile78#9787 wrote:

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voodoochile78#9787 wrote:

A bunch of people have now chimed in to declare that they are doing T15 maps and have tonnes of T15 maps and below.

Entirely missed the point. It doesn't help me that you, a T15 mapper, have tonnes of T11 maps in your stash.

Except you said tonnes of T15..

Anyways you need to juice your maps more.

are you telling us boss don't drop waystones ? there's also boss tablet for more boss farm. There's node on the atlas for odds of highter lvl waystone or you farm like 2 boss T10 you use the 3/1 recipe and you are back to 11.

once you can do a lot of t15 gettiung more t15 is seasy


Before that you sometime are unable to get same level and higher level waystone...

Im having a harder time going 1 to 15 than sustain 15 maps

I have plenty of Waystones, but I consistently get lower tier ones even though I have every node for the Atlas passives that is supposed to give a higher chance at getting a higher tier Waystone, as well as every node for higher chance at getting more Waystones. It's getting super annoying.

Doing T15 maps and getting T4-7 Waystones is just stupid. I quite honestly don't think that should even happen. Any newer character I have that can use those lower level maps can and should gain those Waystones on their own, I don't need my furthest progressed character to feed them Waystones.

My character that is capable of T15 and that are at a higher level isn't even getting EXP out of those lower level maps, so I share the annoyance with Waystone sustain. I have Waystones, I get them every map I run, but it's not in the tiers I am capable of running, rarely at all of a tier higher than the one I put in. Because of this, I effectively have no Waystones. Reforging isn't really cutting it when you can barely get up to T12 before you are completely out of Waystones. I genuinely think GGG needs to go in and fix this, since bad RNG can make a player have a terrible and frustrating experience. I can't only do boss maps either. And even those at times, at best give me one Waystone back of the same exact tier. So if I try to get some T15 maps back through say T13 Waystones on a boss map, I just get a T13 Waystone back. It's just a horrible experience.

Preface: I have yet to buy anymore maps than what Doryani sells, and not many of those even, and those were only at the very start of mapping.

Since there isn't a 'map tab' yet, I'm using a quad tab, with 5x5 areas set up for each tier. From tier 1 to 12, I have between 22 and 25 of each. Tier 13-14 15-20 each. Tier 15 only 8-10, Tier 16 3-5.

The way I do it is to fully load up each with as many modifiers as I can, then throw Vaals at them if I can. Plus, on the Atlas tree, got every single "of higher tier" and "more waystones drop" I could find. When doing the maps: kill every single thing you can, and actually open the pots and other BS containers.

Map sustain is more than capable, you just have to actually work at it, do the full thing, don't leave ANY waystones on the ground.

When one of my 5x5 blocks is going to go over, I reforge for higher tier. You'll find replacements for the ones you have to use to reforge (is why my blocks are at 22-25, not just 25's).

I looked through and didn't see it mentioned so if it has and you've answered this I apologize, but I have a genuine question.

Are you using currency on your way stones?

In case you aren't aware, you can have 3 prefix and 3 suffix on your way stones. The prefixes, typically have modifiers to your loot (mob pack size, rarity of mob, gold drops, etc...) while the suffixes will modify the mobs offense or your defense. The suffixes are what boost your way stone drop chance that you see on the top of all your stones.

It is important that you are boosting this up. At the very least, you should be Trans, Aug and Regaling every stone. Once you get stronger, hit them with exalts too.

I know bosses were mentioned, if you go into a boss map with a way stone that has 300% stone drop chance, there is no way you will run out of stones. It is impossible.