What makes me stop playing PoE2

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brushmonkey#5301 wrote:

Agreed, although vastly improved since the removal of most on death effects I still on occasion find myself dead in an empty screen.

And as 'helpful' as it is for people to suggest that having better defences makes you die less (who knew?!), that is not the issue being posted...dying is not bad, dying with no idea why is bad.

It would be enormously helpful to have a "X monster killed you with Y ability" message, instead of just "you died" which is painfully obvious.

it's usualy a combinaison of factor that will kill you even in a one shot so tbh a post death log would not be relevant in most of the case. But i'm all for it if it can appease some of the playerbase

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Smurfmjuff#0465 wrote:

I have a 81 level sorc, with 77% evasion

The way evasion works is:

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Keystone: Acrobatics
Can Evade all Hits
70% less Evasion Rating

Combined with two spirit gems:

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Wind Dancer
3 maximum stages
Gain a stage every (1.3–1.5) seconds
(15–19)% more Evasion Rating per stage
On being Hit by a Melee Attack, consume all stages to trigger Gale Force

(It is 4 stages, with 20% quality)

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Ghost Dance
(3.05–4) second duration between gaining Ghost Shrouds
When Hit, Consume a Ghost Shroud to
recover Energy Shield equal to 5% of your Evasion

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You need to be able to evade all hits, not only regular ones.

However, this leaves you with very poor evasion, that gets immediately fixed by 4x Wind dancer more evasion.

The downside - you need martial weapon for this.
Any kind will do - even one handed mace.

You can try Seeing Stars Plated Mace for double energy generation, but again - the idea to mix evasion with spellcaster is very questionable.

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The real problem is, that you have to use DEX/INT gear.

All this DEX that you will have to invest on gear, is stat that is not invested in INT.

This means you will be lacking Mana. This means arch-mage and (probably) Mind over mater are out of the question.

This means less damage combined with less defense.

You will be able to do T15 maps, but not nearly fast enough as you should.

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What you have to do - ignore evasion completely, focus on INT gear, stack only INT attribute, pick nodes about Energy shield and Mana, and go with standard supports.

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Lynnwaisse#4198 wrote:

The answer in the second part: sorc with evasion and hp. Say no more :)

This actually works.
As long as you are not casting spells, but working with war staffs.

"Enter arena - time stop - kill boss" is a thing actually.

it's not game for casuals. So i guess it's not for you at all. It need more than just investing in dmg. Consider making your character more tankier and picking defensive ascedancy instead of doing full dmg.

also.. for now.. we have very, very, very ea of the game. Most people are just waiting for Druid and huntress. And that's ok.

I disagree. This game is for casuals. Just look up one of the one hit any boss builds and play the game. You will get there eventually. Its an easy game.

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Sugam#1381 wrote:

I disagree. This game is for casuals. Just look up one of the one hit any boss builds and play the game. You will get there eventually. Its an easy game.

Thats how I played PoE, and it just felt like cheating or.. I dunno it wasn't a fulfilling experience. But it did help me understand the system a bit more without me actually having to look for more out-of-game sources.

I had a much more fulfilling experience in PoE2 now that I managed to have a build I made up myself get to the Endgame.

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it's not game for casuals. So i guess it's not for you at all. It need more than just investing in dmg. Consider making your character more tankier and picking defensive ascedancy instead of doing full dmg.

also.. for now.. we have very, very, very ea of the game. Most people are just waiting for Druid and huntress. And that's ok.

I have more points in defensive nodes than in damage nodes.

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Lynnwaisse#4198 wrote:

The answer in the second part: sorc with evasion and hp. Say no more :)


This actually works.
As long as you are not casting spells, but working with war staffs.

"Enter arena - time stop - kill boss" is a thing actually.

I am not using spells, I use skills. I'm essentially a monk in a sorc body. Using the storm part of the ascendancy.

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EightInchFloppyDisk#2190 wrote:

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Smurfmjuff#0465 wrote:

I have a 81 level sorc, with 77% evasion

The way evasion works is:

"

Keystone: Acrobatics
Can Evade all Hits
70% less Evasion Rating

Combined with two spirit gems:

"

Wind Dancer
3 maximum stages
Gain a stage every (1.3–1.5) seconds
(15–19)% more Evasion Rating per stage
On being Hit by a Melee Attack, consume all stages to trigger Gale Force

(It is 4 stages, with 20% quality)

"

Ghost Dance
(3.05–4) second duration between gaining Ghost Shrouds
When Hit, Consume a Ghost Shroud to
recover Energy Shield equal to 5% of your Evasion

------------------

You need to be able to evade all hits, not only regular ones.

However, this leaves you with very poor evasion, that gets immediately fixed by 4x Wind dancer more evasion.

The downside - you need martial weapon for this.
Any kind will do - even one handed mace.

You can try Seeing Stars Plated Mace for double energy generation, but again - the idea to mix evasion with spellcaster is very questionable.

-------------------

The real problem is, that you have to use DEX/INT gear.

All this DEX that you will have to invest on gear, is stat that is not invested in INT.

This means you will be lacking Mana. This means arch-mage and (probably) Mind over mater are out of the question.

This means less damage combined with less defense.

You will be able to do T15 maps, but not nearly fast enough as you should.

--------------------

What you have to do - ignore evasion completely, focus on INT gear, stack only INT attribute, pick nodes about Energy shield and Mana, and go with standard supports.

So what you are telling me is make a completely other character because evasion and armor is crap and I am at fault, not the game?... why make a evasion or armor system if it is crap and everyone should go energy shield...

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brushmonkey#5301 wrote:

Agreed, although vastly improved since the removal of most on death effects I still on occasion find myself dead in an empty screen.

And as 'helpful' as it is for people to suggest that having better defences makes you die less (who knew?!), that is not the issue being posted...dying is not bad, dying with no idea why is bad.

It would be enormously helpful to have a "X monster killed you with Y ability" message, instead of just "you died" which is painfully obvious.

Thank you. Someone who actually read my post <3

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Pizzarugi#6258 wrote:

Your biggest mistake was taking evasion. Armor and evasion in PoE2 are both terrible in the current state of the game, because they scale poorly compared to energy shield and provide less benefits. Life builds are also pretty terrible for the same reason. Life nodes are extremely scarce compared to energy shield so you can't build it high enough to help you survive deadly hits.

Let's put it more simply: You have 1500 life and 1000 ES. Your evasion lets you avoid getting hit 77% of the time. The moment a 2500+ damage hit gets past your evasion, you're dead. You know what would've saved you? The same amount of evasion if it had been ES instead.

This is part of the 'get good' sentience, but where is the game telling me this? me dying doesn't tell me jack-shit unless I know what I died of. Was it a random projectile that I couldn't see? did I stand on a ground aoe that weakened me up for that projectile? did I miss an exploding corpse?
And when I die in a crypt corridor it is impossible to deduce anything as all I see are walls and a floor filled with corpses.

My latest death happened when I was being careful and tried to kill a super-rare(more than 5+modifiers) of screen. There WAS NOTHING but corpses around me, and the mob was of screen. I don't want the game to be easier, I can understand that my build is subpar, but I want the game to tell me more than just, you dead. I am not mad against the main bosses when I die to them, because I KNOW WHAT KILLED ME; me missing a dodge or was overconfident about something or other, etc. I want to know if I could've just dodged that attack, which means I just have to be more aware of that attack.
Me getting surrounded and killed, is a me issue and something that is clearly stated by the game, only by the fact that once you let them too close you can't dodge through them. <-- the game told me something
Mister four arm monkey slams a giant pillar at me, after a animation cue. <-- the game told me to dodge the slam.

I'm so tired of players defending the game from critique. THE GAME IS GREAT -- BUT -- this is an early access game we are supposed to tell them feedback of our experience so far. And honestly I don't want to HAVE TO look up a Youtuber or a top rated build on the internet to be able to enjoy playing the game. Should I be able to reach lvl 100 on Hardcore on any build? NO ofc not, but let me at least know what killed me so I can try to fix it myself and not by being told, from strangers on the internet, that the game suck at this or that and the only way to progress is to use this specific feature and forget all other features of the game...

Unfortunately, they will only understand this: the sound of coins in your pocket, and whether or not you play their games. When that sound stops, then they will understand.

The game is bad, they also break their promises and there is no league in Poe-1, it is time to talk to the sound, when the sound stops they will understand that something is wrong, otherwise they will continue.