One Death Maps is a monumental failure.

Omg I just tried to jump on the game, run a map as my level 90 Witch with maxed our resistances, and some juiced up rare enemy boar sprinted at me, ignored my minions, which were filling up the entire screen and then stunlocked me to death. I have 75% resistances with 40% chaos resist. It wasn't even doing chaos damage.

I have 30% movement speed and I couldn't even walk away from it faster than it was moving AND attacking, and it's attack speed was extremely fast, in fact I would say most of the enemies in this game move and attack too fast, but this was even worse than usual.

Guess what? Map lost, 10% XP penalty (again, because people can't seem to read, the XP penalty is fine, that already cost me 2 hours of grinding right there) but to lose the map waystone (another hour or so at worst) and the 3 exalts and a vaal that went into that waystone (another hour) is just FUCKED.

Guess what? The devs aren't my friends. I could quite literally personally care less about a single problem they've made for themselves or a single issue they have to fix for their GAME. Because I, a paying customer, am having a terrible time, and so many other people I've spoken to are also. That's the point of this thread.

I don't give a fuck how much ire the devs have earned from shoehorning in their atrociously anti-player one death map system into the game far before they had the genius tier insight to balance said game. I don't care. At all.

Right now, from my perspective, I spent a LOT of money to support a game that will eventually be free anyway, because I thought the devs were a LOT SMARTER than this.

Baffling experience. Fuck this game right now. It's honestly in a bad state.
Whoever shipped this shit out the door in terms of balance should be fired. End of story.

Edit: You know, a huge amount of the problem exclusively is just the arrogance of the devs insisting that they have to have one death maps as a core, integral piece of the game. They don't. That should have been an added on feature. Players clearing YOUR game too fast using the tools that YOU gave them to use and mix and match with? Well, instead of making 99.9% of other players suffer so you can give the 0.01% of players more "challenge", you create a new tier of waystone, that you can't re-enter if you die. Call it a Soulstone or something, I don't give a shit. It's a videogame, use Rule-of-Cool and make it up on the fly. What even is the lore in this game? Aztec people? I don't think anyone knows.

I don't know why the devs decided to go this route, I think, in my opinion, it's just arrogance.
I've never seen another videogame dev team that is so unwilling to listen to player feedback anyway, so that seems to be the biggest problem with GGG, from my perspective.

Sure, some people enjoy that. I do not. I find it frustrating and borderline malicious.
Last edited by GnMQDMLmWZ#3336 on Jan 23, 2025, 7:10:33 AM
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Omg I just tried to jump on the game, run a map as my level 90 Witch with maxed our resistances, and some juiced up rare enemy boar sprinted at me, ignored my minions, which were filling up the entire screen and then stunlocked me to death. I have 75% resistances with 40% chaos resist. It wasn't even doing chaos damage.

I have 30% movement speed and I couldn't even walk away from it faster than it was moving AND attacking, and it's attack speed was extremely fast, in fact I would say most of the enemies in this game move and attack too fast, but this was even worse than usual.

Guess what? Map lost, 10% XP penalty (again, because people can't seem to read, the XP penalty is fine, that already cost me 2 hours of grinding right there) but to lose the map waystone (another hour or so at worst) and the 3 exalts and a vaal that went into that waystone (another hour) is just FUCKED.

Guess what? The devs aren't my friends. I could quite literally personally care less about a single problem they've made for themselves or a single issue they have to fix for their GAME. Because I, a paying customer, am having a terrible time, and so many other people I've spoken to are also. That's the point of this thread.

I don't give a fuck how much ire the devs have earned from shoehorning in their atrociously anti-player one death map system into the game far before they had the genius tier insight to balance said game. I don't care. At all.

Right now, from my perspective, I spent a LOT of money to support a game that will eventually be free anyway, because I thought the devs were a LOT SMARTER than this.

Baffling experience. Fuck this game right now. It's honestly in a bad state.
Whoever shipped this shit out the door in terms of balance should be fired. End of story.


May I ask how big is your physical damage reduction or block chance? Because to me it seems that "juiced up boar" deal physical damage. Also did you invest to some additional stun treshold based on your ES (assuming that your Witch is ES based).
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Sakanabi#6664 wrote:
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Omg I just tried to jump on the game, run a map as my level 90 Witch with maxed our resistances, and some juiced up rare enemy boar sprinted at me, ignored my minions, which were filling up the entire screen and then stunlocked me to death. I have 75% resistances with 40% chaos resist. It wasn't even doing chaos damage.

I have 30% movement speed and I couldn't even walk away from it faster than it was moving AND attacking, and it's attack speed was extremely fast, in fact I would say most of the enemies in this game move and attack too fast, but this was even worse than usual.

Guess what? Map lost, 10% XP penalty (again, because people can't seem to read, the XP penalty is fine, that already cost me 2 hours of grinding right there) but to lose the map waystone (another hour or so at worst) and the 3 exalts and a vaal that went into that waystone (another hour) is just FUCKED.

Guess what? The devs aren't my friends. I could quite literally personally care less about a single problem they've made for themselves or a single issue they have to fix for their GAME. Because I, a paying customer, am having a terrible time, and so many other people I've spoken to are also. That's the point of this thread.

I don't give a fuck how much ire the devs have earned from shoehorning in their atrociously anti-player one death map system into the game far before they had the genius tier insight to balance said game. I don't care. At all.

Right now, from my perspective, I spent a LOT of money to support a game that will eventually be free anyway, because I thought the devs were a LOT SMARTER than this.

Baffling experience. Fuck this game right now. It's honestly in a bad state.
Whoever shipped this shit out the door in terms of balance should be fired. End of story.


May I ask how big is your physical damage reduction or block chance? Because to me it seems that "juiced up boar" deal physical damage. Also did you invest to some additional stun treshold based on your ES (assuming that your Witch is ES based).


25% Armor. 25% block chance. 6k Energy shield and 1.6k HP.
Considering my 30% movement speed and ability to kite enemies while my minions do damage like a DoT, I don't think ANY enemy should run out of nowhere and completely invalidate the build that I've been using to do Tier XV waystones and Bosses, Trial of the Sekhemas and Ultimatum just fine that itself, took me over a month of playing just to acquire.

I think that's bullshit game design. I think that fucking sucks.
So much of the game is overtuned like this, and the fact that PoE 1 had a 6 portal map system (my PoE 1 veteran friend didn't watch any of the stupid livestreams, just knew a PoE 2 was coming out. Why should anyone believe that a game titled "SEQUEL TO GAME YOU LOVE" would totally invert and shit all over what made the first game so fun and beloved in the first place? It's just stupid.

Everything about this entire situation is stupid. Thanks devs. Love the devs "vision" here.
1 portal is great btw. I really hope they don't change it.
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Vash_GGG wrote:
Hi everyone,

Please keep in mind the forums are for civil, constructive discussion of the game, and to avoid antagonising one another as it breaches our rules.


I hope you get paid by posts. I'd copy paste that into every thread on the forums then.
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Kashou#2868 wrote:
1 portal is great btw. I really hope they don't change it.


Okay guy with private profile who contributes 0 to discussion. Go troll another part of the forum.
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Kashou#2868 wrote:
1 portal is great btw. I really hope they don't change it.

Only for solo play, it's downright terrible in coop
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Kashou#2868 wrote:
1 portal is great btw. I really hope they don't change it.


Same


And now the op is name calling people who think this as well


I guess everyone who disagrees with them is just a troll


Love how a profile being private or not makes feedback valid/not for the OP
GGG put up a poll AND post the results. you have the power to stop this war in the player base. sitting back and doing nothing will cause it to escalate further every day.
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Okay. I don't care for forum nonsense I came here to voice feedback.
If you're not going to listen, and instead going to pretend that the feedback isn't valid, you will be ignored.

If you're sooo good at games, and PoE 2 is so easy, go play professionally, you must be good enough to make money so why aren't you?.
What are you doing wasting your time here replying to forum threads if you're such a "God gamer" that PoE 2 is a cakewalk and you can play it in your sleep?
Noone talked about being such a good gamer nor did they try to convince u that they are on a professional level. All that was said is the game is ez enough for the average experienced poe player. Problem is with this type of game u need to put in a fair amount of hours to fully understand the depth of many mechanics and how to adapt them to ur build and playstyle. In poe 1 even people with 1500-2000 hours of gameplay still might feel like a novice and in most scenarioes probably only scratched the surface of all the different mechanics and how they fit together. Poe 2 did actually simplify/dumb down many of these sometimes convoluted mechanics to make it more accessible to the new players but this doesnt mean the game will be more casual and ez
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