Warbringer Shockwave Totems: 300k+ dps mapping / 450k+bossing. All Content Viable (Videos)
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Have you tried Titan with this build by any chance? I just looked at it and wondered if the 15% max life and 50% small passive nodes bonus would be worth trying.
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" I know that people have tried something similar with titan. Definitely comes with trade-offs. 50% passive node bonus is a plus for damage, but comes at the cost of the warbringer node that automatically breaks armour. 15% max life is nice, but comes at the cost of wooden wall, which is effectively a 25% ehp bonus. Titan can also get extra armour, but gives up jade heritage which gives a flat phys reduction passive and up to 5600 extra ehp periodically for a few seconds while the totems continue to work. You can surely make a similar build with titan, but I don't know that it would be stronger. My intuition remains that warbringer is a better choice. Ymmv. -O |
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Best class is Gemling, then Titan and somewhere behind comes Warbringer
Gemling and Titan will end up with a way higher life pool and therefore can use regen, which ends up in no need for flasks If I would return, I would include the Grand Regalia armour with 5% life per socket, an amulet with 12% life and stack strength... Ingenuity and 2 rings with 2% life regen corrupt Like that you can get easily 5-6k life and 10% regen |
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" Please see discussion on pp. 26-27 of this thread for a detailed comparison between this build and a typical gemling build. TLDR: This build is just as strong or stronger in most cases and significantly less expensive. As to Titan, that life pool with regen requires investment that is typically taken from max res. See pp 26-27 re: why that isn't actually stronger. Play what you enjoy, but the idea that Gemling/Titan>Warbringer=untrue. -O Last edited by Orion72#3803 on Feb 10, 2025, 4:14:46 AM
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Great discussion - trying to see how far the totems build can be pushed.
I believe if budget is not a factor, Gemling seems to have the higher ceiling. LVL 92 Gemling who started with Warbringer here with 6k hp, 5k es, 700 Regen (font of blood on shockwave) 90/90/90/75, 71 block (not Svalinn), 40% armor. The incentive wasn't the defensive capabilities although with where it's at, it is very comfy. But it was to explore avatar of fire and scale with elemental damage (~400% increase from the two maces) Shockwave DPS with only 2 damage supports is 175k per totem with 1.2 attacks per second, so the totems come out and clear mobs quickly, achieved through 37% quality gems while maintaining level 40. Could be higher, but more than enough for mapping. The other supports saved for single target. For single target, rolling slam ancestral totem hits for 1 mil over 2 seconds with 75% ele resist pen, plus 215k DPS ignite, so roughly 2 mil DPS with 3 totems. Wished shockwave could reach near this as ancestral totems are a little wonky, but doesn't seem possible to get close. Again, this is not a budget build, but on paper, Gemling seemingly has the higher ceiling. I do wonder for DPS if Warbringer even with just 100k DPS can do more than 175k with Pile on passive and Imploding Impacts (which I never tested to see if it was fully working as some have said it doesn't). If there is more potential in Warbringer, I'm all for it, I like the archetype way more. |
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" Now your version of a totem build does indeed look likely to be stronger offensively. The elemental scaling is something I have not played with at all, but I instantly appreciate the idea of extra ramp from a +7 mace that also gives significant increased damage. Would love a chance to poke around your gear and skill tree. I imagine those weapons are far from cheap. The 90/90/90/75 res and 3x or so ehp make it look stronger defensively as well, though the recovery as a percentage of overall EHP is not as good--this is something that can surely be played around It may be that the only thing this build has left to offer is relative cost for degree of power. It seems likely that Warbringer shockwave totems will complete the far end of the endgame for a fraction of what I imagine the gear necessary to support those stats costs. But I have to say that if you can afford it, your version of Gemling may well do it with greater ease and style. -O |
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