PoE 2 broke my PC?

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DetonatorLoki#3683 wrote:

This thread is a fundamental lack of understanding through and through. PoE2 didn't break your PC and couldn't break your PC. The game can't make your hardware run out of spec. It doesn't do anything magical or out of the ordinary other than it will use CPU cycles if they are available.

I think the issues people are running into are due to usually playing games that don't push their machines and so they think they are setup well thermally. Then they play a game like this that will use the hardware provided and run into thermal issues because as it turns out, their machine at full load doesn't have the cooling capacity needed for sustained gaming at max load.

This. Most of the time, especially with premade PCs, the point everyone takes the cheaper option is the PSU. And unlike with other hardware, you wont notice you have a too weak PSU until it's limit is reached and it shuts down, like when playing a demanding game.
One thing I learned from building my own PCs: Always overdimension your PSU. There is no downside to it and you also have room for future upgrades.

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Fpvl#5617 wrote:

The game makes the CPU run 100%+ on alot of people including me.

That is because PoE(2), from my understanding, is quite CPU heavy and in addition, PoE 2 makes proper use of multithreading, which not many games do, even nowadays. It just means it's using all free ressources.

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Sephiroth_000#5511 wrote:

This. Most of the time, especially with premade PCs, the point everyone takes the cheaper option is the PSU. And unlike with other hardware, you wont notice you have a too weak PSU until it's limit is reached and it shuts down, like when playing a demanding game.
One thing I learned from building my own PCs: Always overdimension your PSU. There is no downside to it and you also have room for future upgrades.

Yup agreed. I mean, I wouldn't go buying a 1500 watt PSU for a 400 watt load or anything like that but i get what you're saying and I agree.

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Sephiroth_000#5511 wrote:

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Fpvl#5617 wrote:

The game makes the CPU run 100%+ on alot of people including me.

That is because PoE(2), from my understanding, is quite CPU heavy and in addition, PoE 2 makes proper use of multithreading, which not many games do, even nowadays. It just means it's using all free ressources.

Absolutely this. The game engine will use up to 8 Main threads, If you are on Intel with a Pcore/ECore setup it will try and use 8P cores and load them up. AMD I think because the Windows Scheduler is weird will just distribute across as many cores as it sees fit. Tbh I'd need an AMD user to confirm.

My 13900k will go above 180 watts at load on its own before I even count my RTX4090 in it.

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Fpvl#5617 wrote:

After a day of playing PoE 2, which I really enjoyed even though I had my PC reboot countless times to the point where it didn't even boot anymore. I now can't even play any other games, because after about 10 minutes my PC shuts down and does NOT boot back up. The whole system is now unstable and even discord is enough to send my PC into a rebooot (or just straight up shuts it down). It starts for a second and then the power is lost and my startup screen is all flickering. I did not have any issues prior to that

r9 5950x
RTX 3080

Nothing overclocked, thermals were good.. not sure why this is happening.


Edit: It all started when I got to Act 2

I have questions:

1. Have you submitted a bug report? If not, please do so; GGG cannot properly track performance issues from forum posts. Also, the number of bug reports received about an issue can boost its priority, helping get it fixed faster. Bug reports are submitted in-game, using the chat window; type:

/bug <description>

Where <description> is a brief description of the issue, i.e. instability, poor performance, etc. You will receive a bug report reference number, which you can include the subject of a new thread in the Early Access > Bug Reports forum, where you can also give your system details, and any other details that would help GGG find and fix the issue, or even reproduce the issue.

2. Have you recently installed an update for Windows, or been "upgraded" to Windows 11? If so, have you tried rolling back that update to see if it fixes the issue? Mircosoft's shit is also shit, and might be the source of the issue.

3. Have you installed the latest drivers for your hardware? I know it seems obvious, but it's easy to forget to do an obvious thing sometimes. If you haven't maybe do so, and see if it helps.

Bonus question, for people with perfomance issues who are not using AMD processors:

4. Have you updated your BIOS in the last few months? If not, you should do so; there's a known issue with 13th and 14th gen Core i9 chips being allowed to over-volt the socket well past anything which would considered safe for the CPU in order to boost performance, which that BIOS update will mitigate. A sudden increase in system instability, or decrease in performance, is one of the symptoms of the issue. (This issue is worst on high-end systems, BTW; i5 and i7 systems were not as badly affected, although the BIOS change helped them, too.)

A lot of people have suggested parts of this list earlier in the thread, BTW, I'm just pulling it all together in one post.

30 year old game killed this guys PC lmao

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DetonatorLoki#3683 wrote:

Absolutely this. The game engine will use up to 8 Main threads, If you are on Intel with a Pcore/ECore setup it will try and use 8P cores and load them up. AMD I think because the Windows Scheduler is weird will just distribute across as many cores as it sees fit. Tbh I'd need an AMD user to confirm.

My 13900k will go above 180 watts at load on its own before I even count my RTX4090 in it.

I have a Ryzen 9 3950X and it's using 10 of my 32 cores (counted with Hyperthreading, don't have a tool that displays usage with only physical cores), although not totally equally. 1 is at 100%, 2 are at ~80% and the others vary between 50% and 80%.

First thing I did when I opened up PoE was to enable Foreground and background FPS limit.

I had the same issue and my pc also briged and afterwards my pc have not been running other games other, without major lag issues

I think this game bricked my PSU, this game is fun but wtf GGG

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pattw555#0071 wrote:

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melkoriii#5637 wrote:

It may have cooked your GPU

Others have complained that the GPU can get really hot.

GPU’s have thermal limits. When they hit them they throttle back or shut down. In 99.99% of cases a piece of software can’t force a GPU with no underlying issues to cook itself. This is just a bad understanding of how computers work.

this is incorrect. soft can 100% break your hardware. not saying this is what happened here, but you have very outdated information about software vs hardware interactions