(RIP)Frostbolt/Eye of Winter, Coldsnap, Cast on freeze/Cast on Crit comet Sorceress

I hope every new PoE players learned a valuable lesson about too-good-to-be-true FOTM builds.

And its especially bad since they f*d up and made the comet max energy 300. with a casttime of 2 sec (1+1) it should have 200 max energy. im not through acts yet and this is just painfully slow to play. And you are a glass cannon

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Suporex#9381 wrote:

Seems youy know what you are talking about so maybe I can ask.
I organicly went with sorc and cold spells. Gam was not so fun for first 25-28 levels but after 30 I kinda liked it with the advice here on support gems and tree from youtube guy. I am 35 lev so no comet or cast on freeze yet.
Can I do some adjustments to still enjoy this sorc? or I will be fcuked after Acts?

I'd suggest abandoning Cold sorc for now before you got invested too much, build is unplayable.

FYI my sorc is lvl 80, 3.5k mana ~600 mana regen and like 5% mana recovery on kill
I have Mind over Matter + Eldritch battery so literally my only defense was mana + mana regen + freezes + kill everything fast
I have good gear with + skills - +8 from global modifiers, 82% cold penetration, around 300% crit damage multi with decend crit chance, etc etc
And my blue tier7 maps feel like garbage now. Time to finish a map has quadrupled.
t9 maps I don't even want to open.
Cast on Freeze was cool with enough investment - you freeze enemy, it casted Comet which froze nearby enemies and it was enough to trigger another comet, so it kind of "chained" Comet to whole screen.
BUT you need HUGE manapool and mana recovery to sustain it, as each trigger eats like 500 mana or more. And for that sustain you sacrifice your survivability. I don't see how this was a problem. IMO the problem is that all Cold skills other than Comet are trash in terms of damage.

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disp4362#2369 wrote:

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Suporex#9381 wrote:

Seems youy know what you are talking about so maybe I can ask.
I organicly went with sorc and cold spells. Gam was not so fun for first 25-28 levels but after 30 I kinda liked it with the advice here on support gems and tree from youtube guy. I am 35 lev so no comet or cast on freeze yet.
Can I do some adjustments to still enjoy this sorc? or I will be fcuked after Acts?

I'd suggest abandoning Cold sorc for now before you got invested too much, build is unplayable.

FYI my sorc is lvl 80, 3.5k mana ~600 mana regen and like 5% mana recovery on kill
I have Mind over Matter + Eldritch battery so literally my only defense was mana + mana regen + freezes + kill everything fast
I have good gear with + skills - +8 from global modifiers, 82% cold penetration, around 300% crit damage multi with decend crit chance, etc etc
And my blue tier7 maps feel like garbage now. Time to finish a map has quadrupled.
t9 maps I don't even want to open.
Cast on Freeze was cool with enough investment - you freeze enemy, it casted Comet which froze nearby enemies and it was enough to trigger another comet, so it kind of "chained" Comet to whole screen.
BUT you need HUGE manapool and mana recovery to sustain it, as each trigger eats like 500 mana or more. And for that sustain you sacrifice your survivability. I don't see how this was a problem. IMO the problem is that all Cold skills other than Comet are trash in terms of damage.

thanks a lot.
Damn I really wanted to play Sorc and I don't know what to do now and if change character. I am at final boss of Act 2...

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Wilmots#7633 wrote:

Your point is about the whinning. Build is not dead. Is just not op in terms of clearing white mobs. On bosses it works just as before. Now you have to cast Comet by yourself... But it's not about cast one spell and run to get a loot anymore. It was OP, period.

My point is - don't play the game if you are miserable playing it for 11 years.
Srsly, do something you like.

could you please stop personal insults? Who do you think you are? My point of stupid nerfs over years is valid. POE 2 in the actual state ....you have to be very aware of white mobs...its not just about taking down bosses. So all of our complains regarding issues with packs of white mobs are valid. [/quote]

Where are the insults? And where have you made any point? Please tell me because all I've seen is straight whinning. Other dudes here made points why it's bad for them, you have not.

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Warpten101#3099 wrote:

I hope every new PoE players learned a valuable lesson about too-good-to-be-true FOTM builds.

This is such a bad take it’s ridiculous! “Too-good-to-be-true” isnt even a relevant claim. The mechanics that went into the build were just clear cut interactions of skills and passives in the game.

The problem is in a game like this that requires very HEAVY investment into a single playstyle to make any real headway into the endgame it’s unbelievably killer to have your build nerfed overnight to the point that it’s unplayable. If it was something along the lines of a 20-40% proc rate nerf the build would still at least be usable, in its current state it IS unplayable.

Many players, myself included, have spent thousands of gold trying to min/max or even just experiment with different options for their build. Now they, and me, have no gold to fix a build that essentially soft locked because the damage is gone. Not providing a way for players to be able to respec out of a broken build is just in bad taste. People either need to now fight through a broken build to scrounge up gold to respec or start all over and go through the whole campaign again, which a lot of people don’t want to and shouldn’t have to do.

I will complain and that is ok....

This hard nerf to cold sorc is just NOT ok. So what should i do now? No gold to respec - time to farm gold with a broken build is just beyond stupid.

I get it, it is an early access title.
BUT
If you destroy build of several hundreds/thousands of players at least have the mercy go give them a chance to respec.

Scenario in my mind:
Office of ggg: "Hey what build is fun and can be nerfed to the ground? Ice sorc def neds a nerf. I bet players will be fuming. HAHAHA"

Seriously if you want players to lose interest in playing a harder campaign that the 1. title and go for it (the harder campaign was actuelly a good thing).
Let the nerfhammer sing.

People will actually quit because of this, mark my words.

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xhYdrax#1083 wrote:

So what should i do now?

You've got these options:
- farm low tier maps, collect and vendor every blue item (hey we still have 6 portals!), then respec to Spark
- Start a new character
- Go touch grass and wait until rollback

Just wanted to say that the old approach of Frost Bolt + Frost Wall + manual Cold Snap (with the occasional CoF comet) still works very well in Cruel at least. It's still efficient on packs with a ton of crowd control, and completely destroys boss the same way as before (since it was relying more on Frost Bomb + Hypothermia + Frost Wall anyway). It's just not a "1-button, nuke the whole screen build" any more.

So for people who are still in the campaign like me there's no need to panic at this stage. However from what I can see this approach is unlikely to be compatible with the endgame so just save in preparation for a full respec when you reach maps (I guess).

Ah man, feels bad. All I wanted was to be a frost wizard :( rip 70hrs on that character.