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The unique The Three Dragons helm would have very good synergy here. All lightning hits > cause frost build up instead. Basically perma-chain freezing the screen.
You could swap out cast on shock to freeze and put in Comet perhaps?
I haven't changed around the tree at all, just testing so far but it seems to have work quite well (only in Cruel at the moment though).
Some part of my lizard brain is remembering this was a thing years ago in the original POE when Spark become quite popular. Worth looking into at least. The added safety of freezing everything would work well for maps I guess.
And then take all elemental attacks shock on ascendancy nodes. Sounds pretty sweet, actually. I'll buy a three dragons helm and try it out.
EDIT: Tried it. Love it. Comet with impetus has an insane clear speed. might need to take a few freeze buildup nodes to reliably freeze bosses though.
Can u update with these cast on frezee, please?
You mean the tree? the gemlinks are already there in the guide, so it'd just be a matter of taking the frost cluster to the right and the major node in the pathing for the pure frost buildup, like so: https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgcAERKDV5NH57nDm87eZ-FuIai24-fiC9GPrgR_EBESEw7v60YAAA==
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Posted bytheherbalist#5190on Dec 10, 2024, 7:28:06 PM
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The unique The Three Dragons helm would have very good synergy here. All lightning hits > cause frost build up instead. Basically perma-chain freezing the screen.
You could swap out cast on shock to freeze and put in Comet perhaps?
I haven't changed around the tree at all, just testing so far but it seems to have work quite well (only in Cruel at the moment though).
Some part of my lizard brain is remembering this was a thing years ago in the original POE when Spark become quite popular. Worth looking into at least. The added safety of freezing everything would work well for maps I guess.
And then take all elemental attacks shock on ascendancy nodes. Sounds pretty sweet, actually. I'll buy a three dragons helm and try it out.
EDIT: Tried it. Love it. Comet with impetus has an insane clear speed. might need to take a few freeze buildup nodes to reliably freeze bosses though.
Glad to hear you are liking it. I'm thinking Heavy Frost would be worthwhile (20% increased freeze build up. Hits ignore elemental resistances of frozen enemies) and Thin Ice (20% Freeze, 50% increased damage with hits against frozen enemies) - both are very close on the tree to points you have allocated. Also Climate Change / Inescapable Cold.
I suspect there will be nerfs to Cast on Freeze soon, but I don't think it will break the interaction with Three Dragons.
both of those nodes are very powerful with minimal extra pathing, good catch. 100% comet will catch a nerf, given how powerful it is. For now though, exploit early before they nerf it!
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Posted bytheherbalist#5190on Dec 10, 2024, 7:30:37 PM
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Just curious I pivoted into this build an am wondering is there an issue currently with cast on shock I feel like I am not getting it to proc enough for consistent fires like some other builds I picked up the 30% from the lightning node and have not picked up the extra 20% from 3rd asscend is it that big of a difference?
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Posted bySahliel#2250on Dec 10, 2024, 7:40:16 PM
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Just curious I pivoted into this build an am wondering is there an issue currently with cast on shock I feel like I am not getting it to proc enough for consistent fires like some other builds I picked up the 30% from the lightning node and have not picked up the extra 20% from 3rd asscend is it that big of a difference?
Take power conduction if you feel like you're not getting enough shocks, otherwise put impetus on your cast on shock to lower the amount of energy needed to trigger it. You can also rush over to energise node to increase energy buildup for more consisten triggers.
for some reason though, using the three dragons helm and cast on freeze is far more consistent - I think the energy required to trigger it is a lot lower for freeze vs shock. I suspect a nerf on energy threshold for freeze will be nerfed soon.
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Posted bytheherbalist#5190on Dec 10, 2024, 8:02:52 PM
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Just curious I pivoted into this build an am wondering is there an issue currently with cast on shock I feel like I am not getting it to proc enough for consistent fires like some other builds I picked up the 30% from the lightning node and have not picked up the extra 20% from 3rd asscend is it that big of a difference?
Take power conduction if you feel like you're not getting enough shocks, otherwise put impetus on your cast on shock to lower the amount of energy needed to trigger it. You can also rush over to energise node to increase energy buildup for more consisten triggers.
for some reason though, using the three dragons helm and cast on freeze is far more consistent - I think the energy required to trigger it is a lot lower for freeze vs shock. I suspect a nerf on energy threshold for freeze will be nerfed soon.
Gotcha I guess I will buy some support node expansions
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Posted bySahliel#2250on Dec 10, 2024, 8:08:18 PM
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Hello. Can you please tell me what about Armor(body armor, gloves etc). Need hybrid with ES-Armor, or ES-Evasion, or just cloth gear with only ES? Working 'armor' for energy shield with damage reduction?
Thanks.
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Posted byKaseiOs#5950on Dec 10, 2024, 8:44:21 PM
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Hello. Can you please tell me what about Armor(body armor, gloves etc). Need hybrid with ES-Armor, or ES-Evasion, or just cloth gear with only ES? Working 'armor' for energy shield with damage reduction?
Thanks.
Armor is currently not worth it, as is evasion - the attributes alone just detract from our full int mana stacking. We can't stack enough to get a reasonable enough damage reduction/dodge chance, so stacking all ES gear, especially with the intent of going CI is the plan.
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Posted bytheherbalist#5190on Dec 10, 2024, 10:13:44 PM
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What about Eldritch Battery? It seemed like a pretty obvious pick to me. It only takes 2 points to get it and is a huge bonus to our max mana, the only real problem is that we no longer benefit from ES% increases from our passive skill tree.
I personally had the problem of ES feeling pretty much useless as it took ages to regenerate, so i tmostly was at 0. So turning it into mana woudl not only improve survivability (thanks to MoM) since it was much easier to regain lost mana but it also would cause our dmg to go up by a lot thanks to the way more max mana.
Though for some reason I still want to pick many of the ES% nodes simply since they have nice stuff like mana regen,Int % or max Mana %. Which does feel a bit annoying ... but I really really have way too little mana regen. I right now only regenerate 400/s while I would consume 700/s with spark alone. And getting rid of MoM and Eldritch Battery is no option since then my survivability would be terrible. It just feels like I'm missing some obvious way to greatly boost my mana regen ... or maybe the problem is just that I have way too much max mana, idk.
I did also get a staff with sigil of power since I thought that would be a nice dmg buff, but I can barely use it due to the too low mana regen as standing still (moving in a small area) for so long in like a boss fight with no mana is just too dangerous.
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Posted byTrostNi#0231on Dec 10, 2024, 10:35:05 PM
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the only real problem is that we no longer benefit from ES% increases from our passive skill tree.
That's a pretty big difference in defence right there though. the way multipliers work, it's diminishing returns, so you're always better double dipping. Also, GGG removed a buttload of the percentaged mana increase nodes to make EB harder to justify taking.
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I personally had the problem of ES feeling pretty much useless as it took ages to regenerate, so i tmostly was at 0.
you gotta invest in more es faster recharge rate nodes on the tree
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Posted bytheherbalist#5190on Dec 10, 2024, 11:08:40 PM
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the only real problem is that we no longer benefit from ES% increases from our passive skill tree.
That's a pretty big difference in defence right there though. the way multipliers work, it's diminishing returns, so you're always better double dipping. Also, GGG removed a buttload of the percentaged mana increase nodes to make EB harder to justify taking.
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I personally had the problem of ES feeling pretty much useless as it took ages to regenerate, so i tmostly was at 0.
you gotta invest in more es faster recharge rate nodes on the tree
What is the best gem link for 48 lvl for cast on shock with comet? And also a skill tree for that, or u can maybe idk edit skill trees in the 1st post? Or nothing to change in mid game skill tree for that?
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Posted byScavangerr#7318on Dec 11, 2024, 1:51:19 AM
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