Hard crashing PC locks up

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floki44#0298 wrote:
Why are you all still on 24H2? Take just one hour to do a clean install of 23H2, and you'll be amazed at how much better it performs. The difference in Windows smoothness and game performance is night and day.

This isn’t just about PoE—plenty of other games are affected too.

Recent searches highlight the issues:

https://www.google.com/search?q=24h2+issues&client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=60373811b08121ce&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWu8GqsK6KAxXS8bsIHUwREtk4ChCnBXoECAUQCQ&biw=1440&bih=739&dpr=1

https://www.google.com/search?q=24h2+feezes&client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=60373811b08121ce&biw=1440&bih=739&ei=TzZhZ7nDJrGE9u8Ppd6_4AU&ved=0ahUKEwj5puK3sa6KAxUxgv0HHSXvD1w4FBDh1QMIEA&uact=5&oq=24h2+feezes&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiCzI0aDIgZmVlemVzMgcQABiABBgNMggQABgFGA0YHjIIEAAYBRgNGB5InS9Q7wZYri1wAngAkAEAmAGzAaAB1Q6qAQQwLjEzuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIKoAK9CcICCBAAGIAEGLADwgIOEAAYgAQYsAMYhgMYigXCAgYQABgNGB7CAggQABgIGA0YHsICCBAhGKABGMMEwgIKECEYoAEYwwQYCsICBhAAGBYYHpgDAIgGAZAGBZIHAzIuOKAHyys&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

In just the past week, there have been numerous reports of various issues, all pointing to 24H2 as the culprit.

Since switching to 23H2, I haven’t had a single freeze. The so-called fixes shared recently don’t actually resolve the root cause; they just make the problems slightly more tolerable. The only real solution is to move to 23H2. And for those who make the switch, take note of how much smoother all your games run—it’s a noticeable improvement.

It’s frustrating to see this thread still full of people experiencing issues while staying on 24H2. I feel like I’ve been given a fresh start after reinstalling Windows, but some of you are still stuck. One person even mentioned they can’t play over the holidays because of these problems. You could’ve been enjoying your games issue-free a week ago by switching to 23H2. Don’t wait any longer!


Freezing started on 23H2 for me, this is a game issue, not Windows issue. Every other game in the universe runs fine.
I started to get this full crash as well. It started after recent windows updates. I had 24H2 before though. I uninstalled recent updates, but the issue is remain.

All other games are totally fine.
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Wellgosh#3093 wrote:
Yeah it helped you, how wonderful.

What about the other people that downgraded and still couldn't play the game because of constant freeze/crashes and risking their PC's? Should we keep saying "it's an 24H2 issue" when it's clearly not?

Those people that keep parroting "downgrade your Windows, it's an "24H2" issue, nothing wrong about my belowed PoE2" are surely the whitest of the knights.

Disagree? Share your arguments.


I genuinely feel that my system runs smoother overall after downgrading to 23H2, and I highly recommend that anyone who hasn’t tried it yet gives it a shot. If even half of you solve the freezing issue this way, that would be a huge win.

After a few days of research, my conclusion is that something is fundamentally wrong with the recent update. If Microsoft really messed up the scheduler or how some CPU cores are managed, only they can fully address the issue. We don’t know the exact problem or how far this could go, there might even be a need for BIOS updates on affected systems.

After so many days of dealing with freezes, trying various workarounds, endless restarts, and sitting through countless loading screens, I’m so glad I finally found a solution that worked for me. I haven’t experienced a single freeze in the past couple of days, and I wanted to share this in case it helps others.

On a side note, I’m quite annoyed that nobody from GGG has provided any concrete updates or insights into this issue. Even a small update to give us an idea of what’s going on would’ve been appreciated.
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floki44#0298 wrote:
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Wellgosh#3093 wrote:
Yeah it helped you, how wonderful.

What about the other people that downgraded and still couldn't play the game because of constant freeze/crashes and risking their PC's? Should we keep saying "it's an 24H2 issue" when it's clearly not?

Those people that keep parroting "downgrade your Windows, it's an "24H2" issue, nothing wrong about my belowed PoE2" are surely the whitest of the knights.

Disagree? Share your arguments.


I genuinely feel that my system runs smoother overall after downgrading to 23H2, and I highly recommend that anyone who hasn’t tried it yet gives it a shot. If even half of you solve the freezing issue this way, that would be a huge win.

After a few days of research, my conclusion is that something is fundamentally wrong with the recent update. If Microsoft really messed up the scheduler or how some CPU cores are managed, only they can fully address the issue. We don’t know the exact problem or how far this could go, there might even be a need for BIOS updates on affected systems.

After so many days of dealing with freezes, trying various workarounds, endless restarts, and sitting through countless loading screens, I’m so glad I finally found a solution that worked for me. I haven’t experienced a single freeze in the past couple of days, and I wanted to share this in case it helps others.

On a side note, I’m quite annoyed that nobody from GGG has provided any concrete updates or insights into this issue. Even a small update to give us an idea of what’s going on would’ve been appreciated.


I played 3 days on 24h2 without any problem until december 9 patch.
Problems only in POE2.
Clean reinstall only for 1 game - no thanks.

Glad it worked for you though. And you have time to reinstall and then setting up system.
Last edited by Diarm#7740 on Dec 17, 2024, 5:45:28 AM
I haven't played since the 8th. But today I decided to try it. Enabled monitoring of processor load and its temperature. Finally. I was able to log into the game, I was able to load the character, at these moments the processor load jumped from 60% to 100%, at the moment of 100% there was a micro-lag for a fraction of a second, the processor temperature was kept around 50-60%, which is very good. BUT do you know at what point my PC froze?? I pressed the U button to open the map, saw the gears, and that's it, everything is exactly the same as it was before when loading the location, the PC just froze. How do you like the new case? I couldn't open the CARD. And someone here writes something about Windows versions and something else.
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floki44#0298 wrote:
Why are you all still on 24H2? Take just one hour to do a clean install of 23H2, and you'll be amazed at how much better it performs. The difference in Windows smoothness and game performance is night and day.

This isn’t just about PoE—plenty of other games are affected too.

Recent searches highlight the issues:

https://www.google.com/search?q=24h2+issues&client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=60373811b08121ce&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWu8GqsK6KAxXS8bsIHUwREtk4ChCnBXoECAUQCQ&biw=1440&bih=739&dpr=1

https://www.google.com/search?q=24h2+feezes&client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=60373811b08121ce&biw=1440&bih=739&ei=TzZhZ7nDJrGE9u8Ppd6_4AU&ved=0ahUKEwj5puK3sa6KAxUxgv0HHSXvD1w4FBDh1QMIEA&uact=5&oq=24h2+feezes&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiCzI0aDIgZmVlemVzMgcQABiABBgNMggQABgFGA0YHjIIEAAYBRgNGB5InS9Q7wZYri1wAngAkAEAmAGzAaAB1Q6qAQQwLjEzuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIKoAK9CcICCBAAGIAEGLADwgIOEAAYgAQYsAMYhgMYigXCAgYQABgNGB7CAggQABgIGA0YHsICCBAhGKABGMMEwgIKECEYoAEYwwQYCsICBhAAGBYYHpgDAIgGAZAGBZIHAzIuOKAHyys&sclient=gws-wiz-serp

In just the past week, there have been numerous reports of various issues, all pointing to 24H2 as the culprit.

Since switching to 23H2, I haven’t had a single freeze. The so-called fixes shared recently don’t actually resolve the root cause; they just make the problems slightly more tolerable. The only real solution is to move to 23H2. And for those who make the switch, take note of how much smoother all your games run—it’s a noticeable improvement.

It’s frustrating to see this thread still full of people experiencing issues while staying on 24H2. I feel like I’ve been given a fresh start after reinstalling Windows, but some of you are still stuck. One person even mentioned they can’t play over the holidays because of these problems. You could’ve been enjoying your games issue-free a week ago by switching to 23H2. Don’t wait any longer!


and for the 108 th time this week, this only solves it for a hand full of people there is thousand others who have that update and still freeze/crash.
go ggg fix this crap we are tired and want to play at least give us the option to disable multithreading while loading. ain't that big of a deal till you fix this.
1 hour played today and 2 hard crashes already
9800X3D X870E 4070SUPER 64GB 990PRO
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NufPoD#2344 wrote:
go ggg fix this crap we are tired and want to play at least give us the option to disable multithreading while loading. ain't that big of a deal till you fix this.


"give us the option to disable multithreading while loading" this is awesome idea untill they sort it out properly...
For those experiencing constant crashes/freezes and looking for real solutions, do not listen to people claiming that changing a simple setting like DX version magically fixed everything. Plenty of players, including myself, have already confirmed these are not permanent fixes, and their systems still crash/freeze.

I have personally tried everything mentioned below (and probably forgot half of it because I’ve literally tested every tweak suggested in these forum threads):

What I’ve Tried So Far:

POE2 Video Setting Tweaks
(DirectX11, DirectX12, Vulkan, FPS limiting, graphical settings—you name it)

BES
(CPU limitations: -2%, -5%, -10%—game crashes but doesn’t crash the whole PC)

Lasso
(Disabling 2 CPUs—same result, the game still crashes 8/10 times during loading)

NVIDIA Settings Tweaks

Adding Exceptions to Firewall & Windows Defender

Removing Latest Windows Updates

FRESH INSTALLING WINDOWS 23H2
(Using UUPDump & Rufus)

Result:
None of these work.

It’s absolutely insane that some people still claim switching DX versions magically resolves everything and call others "nerds." Seriously, just stop. Go play your game.

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To GGG:

I’m beyond frustrated that there has been no insight or proper details from you regarding this issue, other than blaming Windows 24H2.

Sure, the game might be a massive success for those who can actually play it. But for the rest of us? This is a complete shame.

Enjoy your holidays while leaving us stuck with a broken experience. Well done.

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