Cold Chronomancer Megathread. Fully updated.

yeah, that is on kill/crit of shocked. enemy.

the weakness of all those on kill versions are they need to be killing. bosses. or when stunned.
nuking my flask regen is the main reason I noped out of MoM. If I can maximize my instant flask effect, to be able to heal through damage when stunned, or outpace mana use on bosses, or when hit. then I might find it more viable.


utility belt is "20% of flask recovery is applied instantly"
"bubbling" flasks are 30% of flask recovery is instant.

mana flasks in poe2 are a bit weak innately.
310 mana over 3s for an ultimate, without quality.
372 with.

id expect:
111.6 mana instant by default with 130 over 3s with mom.
186 instant with belt, with 93 over 3s with mom.

"concentrated" mana flask is 70%increased amount. with 20% quality
589 mana over 3s.
id expect:
20%=116 instant with belt. then 235 over 3s with mom.

"seething" with 20% quality
217 instant mana with/without belt.
according to maxroll.gg... which I don't understand the math on.
how does 50% reduced amount of 372 give us 217?

its something to do with quality. 0 quality give us the expected 155.
oh, quality is +62. both with and without seething.
is this maxroll.gg being wrong, or is that how it is in the game too? quality is not effected by the reduced amount recovered?

I'll have to look into this later.

linen belts are 30% increased mana flask recovery
fine belts are .17 charges/second.

Emeralds also can get 15% mana recovery from flasks.
15% increased charge gain,


Edit: ok looking into this.
in game, and maxroll.gg don't seem to match

in game quality seems to round up, and give a bit more.
5% quality=326 maxroll says 325.
9% quality=338. maxroll says 337.

44% increased flask with 9%. maxroll says 474.
actual: 487
338x 1.44=486.7 so its a bug with maxroll.gg.
9% quality seething is 169 mana. 337x.5=168.5
and quality adds in first, and then increased recovery multiplies.

maxroll.gg was giving me wrong numbers. not applying flask effect to quality.

so, I dont have a 20% quality, but that seems correct, if possibly rounding error.
372 20% quality lets agree.

50% less "seething" should be:
186 mana instant.

70% increased amount "concentrated" should be:
632 mana over 3s. if 20% instant belt, 126 instant. 506 over 3s.

30% instant "bubbling" should be"
111.6 instant, 260 over 3s. 186 instant with 20% instant belt as well and 186 over 3s.

MoM.
186 instant.
126 instant, with 253 over 3s.
186 instant, with 93 over 3s.

oh.

also found out a new thing about maxroll.gg's planner via reddit..

ChobiOne had them. and i noticed long ago... but forgot to ask...

you can add jewels... after your allocate the socket, click it again.

So like... how the hell can a Cold Spell caster can have some fun in this? like i feel like i cannot progress from t2 to t3 or 4 maps with cold, i dont get exalts to buy the wand/focus, i dont drop them too, im stuck with a staff with 70% total spell+cold and +3 to cold. everything thats not bomb/wall/comet does no damage at all, should i buy rarity item to the max and farm.. i dunnom apex of filth or some bad place like that?

I tested out Eternal Youth today and it's boosted my tankability by a ton. I have a belt with 57% increased life recovery and a life flask with "90% more recovery if used while on low life" (works with CI). 1 charge restores 3k ES. I take a sip during combat and my ES stays high. It allows me to face tank breaches where in the past I had to play a little more safe. I can also use it when I'm stunned/frozen.

My ES is literally my HP pool at this point, so Eternal Youth just lets me use life flasks again, where before I wasn't able to use them due to CI. Grim feast automatically takes care of ES recovery so I don't really notice that ES doesn't recharge anymore. Highly recommend if you want to tank up more.

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barrakick#7574 wrote:

So like... how the hell can a Cold Spell caster can have some fun in this? like i feel like i cannot progress from t2 to t3 or 4 maps with cold, i dont get exalts to buy the wand/focus, i dont drop them too, im stuck with a staff with 70% total spell+cold and +3 to cold. everything thats not bomb/wall/comet does no damage at all, should i buy rarity item to the max and farm.. i dunnom apex of filth or some bad place like that?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like your build is lacking some interactions and you rely purely on raw damage increase, which is expensive and you can't afford it yet.

Besides that - yes, you are correct, main hitters are spells like comet, frost wall and interactions with them. You won't deal too much damage with your regular fillers, but you can make them trigger your powerful spells one way or another.

Cold sorc is not meta, so core items for it are much cheaper than for other builds, especially uniques. But some top rolls are still expensive, obviously. Imo, you should look into some interactions, something that will make your build work significantly better. Something like what Snakepit ring does for Frostbolt.

Perhaps you should focus on other stats meanwhile. I think on your weapon +4-5 to spell levels will give you more damage than +% increased spell/cold damage.
If you have a way to stack some mana now, then you could try to fit in Archmage, it's very strong now, but it reserves 100 spirit. It will boost your damage by a lot.

Wands with 100+ % increased spell and cold damage (combined), +4 cold spells and a bunch of other useful stats cost like 1-5 ex:
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/4lVd4mMt9

And find some cheap scepter or focus.

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guanzo#5923 wrote:

I tested out Eternal Youth today and it's boosted my tankability by a ton. I have a belt with 57% increased life recovery and a life flask with "90% more recovery if used while on low life" (works with CI). 1 charge restores 3k ES. I take a sip during combat and my ES stays high. It allows me to face tank breaches where in the past I had to play a little more safe. I can also use it when I'm stunned/frozen.

My ES is literally my HP pool at this point, so Eternal Youth just lets me use life flasks again, where before I wasn't able to use them due to CI. Grim feast automatically takes care of ES recovery so I don't really notice that ES doesn't recharge anymore. Highly recommend if you want to tank up more.

Yeah, Eternal Youth was the first thing I got after switching to MOM+EB+CI with Gaze and trying it out. It felt weird that I can't recover with flask and have to wait for natural ES recovery. I hate the concept. Just pop a flask, don't stop, continue clearing, get flask charges back. Works much better this way.

Probably the fact that I had my first map with burning patches on the ground didn't help xD With Eternal Youth it's not a problem.

As of Grim Feast - it's safe option, for sure. But I hate playing without Blink, so I noticed dropping Grim Feast in favor of Blink more and more lately, for all content, even breaches.

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As of Grim Feast - it's safe option, for sure. But I hate playing without Blink, so I noticed dropping Grim Feast in favor of Blink more and more lately, for all content, even breaches.

Same, which is why I ended up getting an unset ring so I can use both Grim Feast and Blink. Worth it for QoL.

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chobi0ne#5028 wrote:

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barrakick#7574 wrote:

So like... how the hell can a Cold Spell caster can have some fun in this? like i feel like i cannot progress from t2 to t3 or 4 maps with cold, i dont get exalts to buy the wand/focus, i dont drop them too, im stuck with a staff with 70% total spell+cold and +3 to cold. everything thats not bomb/wall/comet does no damage at all, should i buy rarity item to the max and farm.. i dunnom apex of filth or some bad place like that?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like your build is lacking some interactions and you rely purely on raw damage increase, which is expensive and you can't afford it yet.

Besides that - yes, you are correct, main hitters are spells like comet, frost wall and interactions with them. You won't deal too much damage with your regular fillers, but you can make them trigger your powerful spells one way or another.

Cold sorc is not meta, so core items for it are much cheaper than for other builds, especially uniques. But some top rolls are still expensive, obviously. Imo, you should look into some interactions, something that will make your build work significantly better. Something like what Snakepit ring does for Frostbolt.

Perhaps you should focus on other stats meanwhile. I think on your weapon +4-5 to spell levels will give you more damage than +% increased spell/cold damage.
If you have a way to stack some mana now, then you could try to fit in Archmage, it's very strong now, but it reserves 100 spirit. It will boost your damage by a lot.

Wands with 100+ % increased spell and cold damage (combined), +4 cold spells and a bunch of other useful stats cost like 1-5 ex:
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/4lVd4mMt9

And find some cheap scepter or focus.

You`re right, im trying to make something with raw damage, mostly because im playing with 2 other friends, and i feel like my build its doing nothing, im always behind them cause i cant even wall propretly too, cause i dont wanna get them stuck, when im doing stuff solo, the interactions i use are the Drostbomb + curse + walls and im using coldsnap, since it makes me feel a smidge stronger.
this is how my skilltree its looking right now https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/5h2c209r

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guanzo#5923 wrote:

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As of Grim Feast - it's safe option, for sure. But I hate playing without Blink, so I noticed dropping Grim Feast in favor of Blink more and more lately, for all content, even breaches.

Same, which is why I ended up getting an unset ring so I can use both Grim Feast and Blink. Worth it for QoL.

Oh, yeah! I use Unset Ring too, but I swap from Snakepit to it for bosses only, so I can use Conductivity and have extra rarity and a bit more damage just for big bosses like Arbiter and Xesht.

I run a lot of spirit (381) and I use a bunch of stuff which reserves spirit, but I can't fit in both Grim Feast and Blink (either because of slot or because of spirit, it depends on the setup)..

Low Life when CI is fixed, is anointing Mental Toughness more valuable than Icebreaker now?