Path of Exile 2 - Ascendancy Classes in Early Access

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sanguifer#5483 wrote:

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Thesuffering#0836 wrote:

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sephrinx#7591 wrote:

I am massively disappointed with how boring and lame most of these are.

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Most of them are build defining.

Many do look rather... unexciting. And there is a clear mismatch between them.

Let me try to explain what I mean: Consider any node that only gives access to a unique skill. Sure, those are build-defining by definition. But look at the opportunity cost. Presumably, those skills can't be so busted that they overshadow anything else You can get in the game. So if You pick a skill node, it will always compete with different skill+stat node. That's a balancing nightmare right there.

Then there are things like the "+20 inventory slots" node. I mean, that is great quality of life, of course. But it's weird AF, because it's just that. How busted does Your build have to be that You can consider giving up 25% of Your precious ascendancy points purely for a QOL feature? AND it's a travel node to another unexciting one that just makes small passive nodes stronger. Now, that one looks like there's great power in that. But it's not particularly exciting. Same goes for the "15% more life" one. Or the "50% more armour from equipped body armour". Does that sound like a build-defining ascendancy node to You?

Plenty of them are like that. Gemling legionaire - the one I'll probably go for, actually - seems powerful, but is it exciting? +1 skill. +10 quality. More bonus from stats. Max Res. Half the tree is just flat stats that You could get from generic gear. Then there's stuff like Point Blank on Deadeye used to be nodes on the passive tree in PoE1.

Granted, we also have a lot of absolutely awesome stuff. And that's another problem in, for example, Acolyte of Chayula: Are You really excited for "bunch of chaos res" node when You have interesting stuff like Into the Breach and the whole Darkness part? You really gonna feel good picking "every 12 seconds, gain 50% cast speed for 4 seconds" or "slow nearby enemies by 20%", when there's stuff that resets Your cooldowns, timestops enemies, or gives You an Ekko ultimate?

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Mentality73837#2720 wrote:

I'm in awe of people complaining about these ascendancies, especially the minion players. Minions were shown to need spirit to summon, no matter whether there was a Necro ascendancy or not, that doesn't change the fact that you'd need to spirit stack to summon more minions. we haven't seen the full skill tree, so my advice. get over yourselves, the ascendancies look amazing and encapsulate what they are trying to be very well from first glance. Excited to see the builds that come out of them.

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RahimLY#2537 wrote:

Such a shame , Witch has no Minions Support or Damage states
WTFFF!!

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Thesuffering#0836 wrote:

Thinking of going strength stacking. Not sure if I want to go gemling legionaire(double inherent bonuses) or Titan 50% more effect of small notables.