No pay to win in GamePath of Exile II demanded

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yodasdad#2505 wrote:

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Soop#0082 wrote:

PoE has used this same model for 12yrs, successfully. PoE2 isn't changing anything.

Quit being butthurt.

Keep spending hundreds on shiny pixels, and arguing on forums over a model that's made you a whale for a company that doesn't care about you.

Guess you have never spent any $$$ on a game then. They are all shiny pixels and none of the companies care about you or your feelings.

The only thing a company cares about is making more $$$ then they spend.

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yodasdad#2505 wrote:

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Soop#0082 wrote:

PoE has used this same model for 12yrs, successfully. PoE2 isn't changing anything.

Quit being butthurt.

Keep spending hundreds on shiny pixels, and arguing on forums over a model that's made you a whale for a company that doesn't care about you.

I've spent $140AUD in 12 years and $100 of that was yesterday when I got a supporter pack because GGG have been doing a really great job.

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Soop#0082 wrote:

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yodasdad#2505 wrote:

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NicknamesOfGod#1810 wrote:

I think GGG can live with consequences like this: https://imgur.com/1L9NXbe

Diablo 4 has made over a billion in sales but its legacy is rotten. Irrelevant.

PoE has used this same model for 12yrs, successfully. PoE2 isn't changing anything.

Quit being butthurt.

Well, actually, 2ish years.

The first 4 years the company did terribly and almost closed down.

Then 2 years of profits

Then Tencent bought them.

Hard to tell what the real numbers are after that, considering their very chaotic retention numbers and design decisions. Plus sinking a whole metric ton of money into a sequel that hasn't been proven yet.

The fact you glossed over the disparity of profits between Diablo and Path of Exile ... considering how much people love dogging on D3 and D4 .. might make you look like the hurt one.

Even a profitable enterprise could be on a verge of failure if those profits aren't magnitudes higher than their costs. A mom and pop shop can be profitable, but go under pretty quickly. A Walmart has a lot harder time doing that, and not making profits.

as much as people shit on d4, financially theyre doing super well. if i was an indie and i made as much money blizz does with d4, i will dry my tears with wads of cash whenever people say my game is bad

GGG has enough people willing to pay that they don't need to worry about it. Don't like the monetization don't play simple as that. Go play Diablo 4. You get the entirety of campaign, endgame and everything else on full release for free. The only people who care about any "Advantage" are racers which I doubt you are. Most racers are HCSSF with no trading making tabs not that valuable anyway. GGG owes you nothing and you are just making yourself look less than ideal.

if you couldn't afford a couple stash tabs over the past decade maybe you should focus on something else besides playing a video game. Like you got a free game which you've not supported so essentially everyone else is paying for you the play the game so your thoughts on the matter just really don't matter.

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Heartbeach#9068 wrote:

Find a path to use thing(s) such as gold in Path of Exile 2 to expand stash tabs instead of real money, for no pay to win. Only things you can sell are cosmetics. Alternatively, one-time purchase like Last Epoch to gain access to every stash tab (stash tab(s) that can be expanded by gold or thing(s) in the game) and a Path of Exile 2 game is acceptable, critically.

how about , given the extremely high quality of this game they charge for people to play as normal games do?

There is no PTW.. there is no competition therefore cannot be PTW

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exsea#1724 wrote:

as much as people shit on d4, financially theyre doing super well. if i was an indie and i made as much money blizz does with d4, i will dry my tears with wads of cash whenever people say my game is bad

But Blizz operational costs are orders higher than of an indie. They have investors adn they need to show a huge ROI to not lose their heads.

Another new account just to whine. Thread already lost all seriousness.

With the first blood supporter pack for every player this game would not be pay to win in any way as you could buy currency tab, map tap and a premium tab. This is actually all that's really important. the rest is fluff and not even time saving convenience, it just enables hoarders (like me)

Also, please use deepl for a significantly better translation ;)