No pay to win in GamePath of Exile II demanded

Find a path to use thing(s) such as gold in Path of Exile 2 to expand stash tabs instead of real money, for no pay to win. Only things you can sell are cosmetics. Alternatively, one-time purchase like Last Epoch to gain access to every stash tab (stash tab(s) that can be expanded by gold or thing(s) in the game) and a Path of Exile 2 game is acceptable, critically.

The post is my final judgement.

Sucks to be you I guess.

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Heartbeach#9068 wrote:

The post is my final judgement.

Imagine making such demands like this when you haven't supported the devs at all let alone thinking you have any control here. Lol, head back to Fortnite.

The answer was no in 2013. The answer is no today.

Maybe wait for PoE 3

Stash tabs aren't P2W they are convenience. They are not require in the least to play the game, sell items or do anything else. They just have certain tabs with cosmetics that sort items or currency and one the help selling items but none of it is P2W.

I think it's good there are ways to support the devs beyond cosmetics. YOu're not buying a sword of 1000 truths here, just getting access to more storage. Seems like something I'll probably buy at some point, whereas costumes are something I would literally never buy.

Wait i could win the game by owning a lot of stash tabs? I must doing something wrong in SSF

I can't think of anything which would be worse for PoE2 than allowing bots to farm in-game gold for conversion to things with a dollar value. It's such a terrible idea on so many levels, I hardly know where to start. So... ummmm.... no? How about we just all say no.

p2w is simple

do you gain an advantage by purchasing something from the ingame shop using real money over a non payer.

stash tabs save you a huge lot of time.

is time p2w? in wow you can buy an instant level up from 1 to max level using real money. TIME is advantage.

theres a silly notion that its not p2w because you're SSF.

thats like saying diablo immortal is not p2w because you dont play with other players, you dont engage in pvp, you dont need to buy anything as you can get 5 star power ups as a free player.

thats like saying overconsumption of sugar is bad when you actively avoid sugar.

thats willful ignorance. you're reframing the entire definition based on your gameplay experience which downplays discussion.

its similar to saying poe is a puzzle game where the real gameplay is fitting in puzzle pieces in pob to make an awesome build. in that context you're not wrong, but in the generally accepted context, youre awfully wrong.

whenever someone says you gain no advantage from buying stash tabs and that they're playing SSF thus theres no advantage, they're actively framing it in their own personal perspective which is valid but only from their very specific given scenario which does not apply globally to everyone.

technically EA is a form of p2w too, as you gain indepth knowledge of the game before it releases, you get to practice boss fights, you get to vague understanding of what to do. you will play the game much more efficiently when the game releases compared to someone who never touched the game before.

despite saying all that i would say that on the scale of p2w, POE/POE2 are the LEAST p2w and are "socially accepted" p2w. from 1 to 10, it would probably be a 0.3/10

but to totally dismiss POE1/2 as not p2w is imho dishonest.

in fact i would even say poe is not f2p but is a free to try game/freemium. if you like it, "buy the game" by purchasing premium stash tabs. the game feels waaaaaay more fun to play if you have paid tabs.

back to OP's main topic, i'd chime in and say nah. POE's monetization is fine where it is. the level of p2w is acceptable to the point people would argue its not even p2w (and you're objectively wrong if you think that).