Game is turning into a glass cannon only builds

I'll say it again,

no

glass cannon builds are awful unless you're running only sanctum or ubers

there are no random one shots in the game, your build is just bad. I used to say the same thing back when maraketh archers were randomly killing me in legion league, then I realized that I just don't know how to build characters. don't think I "randomly" got one shot in years now

the game's all about finding the fine balance between offense and defense, if you can't do that, go copy paste some streamers until you figure the game out

if random one shots were a thing, there wouldn't be hundreds of people playing on hc and never dying

Ohh my God NO!

DO NOT even start to say Elden Ring and draw ANY comparison.

Elden Ring is a game you can beat naked with a dagger at level 1.

ALL of the skill is in the hands of the player.

PoE is the EXACT opposite of Elden Ring. There is NO player skill and no way any player will beat the UBERS with a level 1 character and a dagger.

PoE is spreadsheet gaming .. you face tank every encounter and with the exception of needing to dodge a laser beam or side step a flaming rock ..

You are standing in a blinding light show fixated on the health bar which does little as you are going to go 100% to dead....

Never make the mistake of mentioning Elden Ring and difficulty and making any comparison ... there is none ... and the sub par game releases that have come out with totally over scaled mobs that should never exist since AN , it is not Elden Ring difficulty ... it's just lazy , kill your character mechanics ..

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awesome999 wrote:

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Draegnarrr wrote:

Doesn't work for the reason you've said they don't do it, supporting wildly divergent player groups is tantamount to running two games at once.

Now they could run two games if that is the level of solution you are trying to grasp at here - but one is enough work already frankly.

I doubt it. It is probably similar to Elden Ring reasons. Easy mode contradict with its own fundamentals game design about challenge and perseverance. Their developers have stated that an easy mode would go against their vision for the game. People would be missing out on the true Dark Souls experience if you change the difficulty. Base on developer's own personal value and principles that it would "ruins" the game. They respectfully decline to implement an Easy mode. It isn't they couldn't, they don't want to.

So if there is no skill, how come we have such utter domination by Ben, who is also coincidentally one of the best WoW players? Or how come IMExile was able to relatively smoothly transition from doing well in PoE to high lvl play in wow?

Fact is,Boss mechanics can be dodged easily enough if you know the fight, look at Gauntlet, nobody is facetanking those hits.
https://youtu.be/NPwWzShHIiQ?si=GbHj_JKs5lmPms5Y


Starting at 8 minutes, this is an Uber fight with almost zero damage taken, in an environment where half the attacks would oneshot.

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Jitter912 wrote:

Look here "You People"

Yeah sure Hardcore can.
you know how, by playing the most boring play style possible.
blue maps 5 levels lower than you. Never take any risk and never juice anything.
Exp grind to 100.

The game is full of Intentional BS to one shot your character.
I full on believe it is not random ...

The Soul eater , resist to fire , mana syphon , fast moving, extra hit points ,
150% hit points as mana shield mob that was dropped in the map .... just to kill you ... not provide challenge, fun , or reward .... just to kill your player by removing or nullifying your stats until you are ...... ONE SHOT.

And this is why I said what I said......this simply is NOT based in reality!

Furthermore, you named EXACTLY what I alluded to.....that 1 in a million mob that actually IS potentially a walking 1shot. But there are two caveats here: 1) most of that is uniquely difficult ONLY for your build (such as fire resist, ES, fast) and 2) You probably aren't even trying to counter it. Which is pretty obvious given your second response.

"Full of intentional BS" and then proceeds to name one hyper specific example that almost literally has a mathematical 1 in a million chance of appearing. also....a rare with that many mods tends to require specific planning on YOUR part to spawn. Rare monsters are not running around with 5+ mods unless you selected something to make them do that.

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Jitter912 wrote:

Ohh my God NO!

DO NOT even start to say Elden Ring and draw ANY comparison.

Elden Ring is a game you can beat naked with a dagger at level 1.

ALL of the skill is in the hands of the player.

PoE is the EXACT opposite of Elden Ring. There is NO player skill and no way any player will beat the UBERS with a level 1 character and a dagger.

PoE is spreadsheet gaming .. you face tank every encounter and with the exception of needing to dodge a laser beam or side step a flaming rock ..

You are standing in a blinding light show fixated on the health bar which does little as you are going to go 100% to dead....

Never make the mistake of mentioning Elden Ring and difficulty and making any comparison ... there is none ... and the sub par game releases that have come out with totally over scaled mobs that should never exist since AN , it is not Elden Ring difficulty ... it's just lazy , kill your character mechanics ..

Generic summary of excuses people have that struggle with the game. Rather than acknowledge they need to have a different approach or lack skill currently, they say the game is unfair.

PoE is unique in that it lets you make up for lack of skill by "spreadsheet gaming"

However, that does not mean that there is no expression of skill in Path of Exile. Quite the contrary, actually.

I'll just say this: if you know you know. (:

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mefistozxz wrote:

Rare monsters are not running around with 5+ mods unless you selected something to make them do that.

And don‘t forget that most of the time there will be additional super rippy mods on the map that players simply ignore. „Oh I got oneshot by some archnemesis bs, i was just running your run-of-the-mill 8 mod map with 2x Phys as, monster crit and a bunch of map mod effect on the atlas“.

People run the most unreasonable content, put on Determination, a Granite Flask and capped resistances and are surprised they die. I leveled to 99.5 in 8 mod beyond maps on a warden this league, the secret was to put on a grand total of 4 defensive items (Headhunter, Fortify Gloves, Doppelgangers Guise, Progenesis), somehow this seems to be some sort of secret tech though.

If you want to be tanky either

A) Build a tanky character from the ground up

Or

B) Put in some amount of investment into the defences of your glass cannon that are suited well to the content you want to do

I guess option C) is complaining that the game is to rippy, but who has time for that.

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Jitter912 wrote:

Ohh my God NO!

Of course there is skill in PoE. You know it, I know it - everyone knows it, but some people just seem to brush it off as a trifle. Saying there's no skill required in PoE is JUST as bad as comparing PoE to Elden Ring. Both are needlessly extreme and factually wrong.

If we put the bare minimum of required endgame gear on a character and put that character in hand of an average player, he won't be able to do much. Put that character in the hands of a good player, and ubers can be beaten.

But this IS the Hack'n Slash genre. Gear is SUPPOSED to matter. A LOT! It ALWAYS does in these kind of games and it's frankly kind of embarrassing that people use that as a negative. Gear is the freaking driving force of Diablo clones.

Can you compensate for the lack of skill by making a close-to-immortal character? Sure, but again; most ARPGs let you do that to a certain degree, because the power fantasy is - and should be - strong in ARPGs.

People always jump to dexterity, reaction and coordination to define skills. And while you can get far with that in PoE (just look at Mathil), skill can - and is - also be defined:

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the ability to use one's knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance

Knowledge is skill, and knowledge is king in PoE.

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Mashgesture wrote:

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Jitter912 wrote:

Ohh my God NO!

DO NOT even start to say Elden Ring and draw ANY comparison.

Elden Ring is a game you can beat naked with a dagger at level 1.

ALL of the skill is in the hands of the player.

PoE is the EXACT opposite of Elden Ring. There is NO player skill and no way any player will beat the UBERS with a level 1 character and a dagger.

PoE is spreadsheet gaming .. you face tank every encounter and with the exception of needing to dodge a laser beam or side step a flaming rock ..

You are standing in a blinding light show fixated on the health bar which does little as you are going to go 100% to dead....

Never make the mistake of mentioning Elden Ring and difficulty and making any comparison ... there is none ... and the sub par game releases that have come out with totally over scaled mobs that should never exist since AN , it is not Elden Ring difficulty ... it's just lazy , kill your character mechanics ..

Generic summary of excuses people have that struggle with the game. Rather than acknowledge they need to have a different approach or lack skill currently, they say the game is unfair.

Wake up !

It's not skill , it i dunno research , perhaps analysis.
But mostly copy and paste and following instructions ...

Pick your best streamer ... pick your best god mode player...
then give me their character....

You know what ... Im now god mode ...
The player has 0 to do with it ...
Its all spreadsheet .... and it's all binary .

120% resists , you win .
99% resists , you lose.

120% resists .. you walk to the mob .. press the button 8 times you win .
99% resists .. you walk to the mob ... press the button as many times as you want ... you are already one shot dead ....

You are going to have a skill debate there ...
You think that any streamer is using skill ?

Its a excel sheet game ... it aint the olympics ...
give a 5 year old a streamer character they are equally capable of clearing the content.

There is no skill here .. its about avoiding or trivializing 99% of the game so you don't need to deal with it ...

Show me the skill ... show me the person rocking 45% resists and using a dagger ... there are no skill players .... actually i take it back .. the racers who execute flawless motion and kill the content way under leveled .. is skill.

However the other not 1% .... are just trade league warriors copy and pasting and following instructions ...

^hehe omg. If you think that's how the game works I have actually no idea what you are playing.

Hardly anything is binary in PoE.

Resists (those numbers are wrong too btw)
120% = alive
99% = dead

Well....what about all the other forms of mitigation? What about endurance charges? What about life amount? What about armour? What about "taken as"? What about simply avoiding the damage via movement? What about regen? What about proper potion use? What about damage reduction via other mechanics?

What about pierce? What about map mods exacerbating the damage taken in different ways? What about stacking ailments and debuffs? What about the initial damage of the hit?

We can do this for everything you just said.


I would even argue that there are MANY players who can survive without maxed resists. They simply don't because its too easy to cap resists so why would they ever NOT do that?! In fact, the map mod "-x% to all max elemental resists" exists and is run by a hell of a lot of players. Even juiced up with the atlas tree so that some people are regularly mapping with resistances around 60% or even lower. Some even run that mod, coupled with being cursed by ele weakness.

So much for your "theory"