Skills with no Transfigured versions have effectively been heavily nerfed

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pr13st wrote:

Did you check the new qualities? Most are pretty good I think.

Most of the time's it's take the glove off one hand and put it on another. So one hand is always cold.

For example, (and this happens over and over in the builds), they buff one quality and then nerf another both used in the same build. So the net positive is basically unchanged.

Some skills that were boarderline became taken out at the knees. When Matt was asked how they though the Chieftain changes went, what did he say? Oh well mostly good, I think we could have done slightly better. Now look at who's playing chieftain, It can't even get 1% and at league start it was at about .02%.

Here we are, we'll be going on 6 leagues now of Bows being top dog and the same skills still being the best skills. And they said apparently they were out of ideas on how to balance the game and fix the glaring issues between caster, melee, and ranged. I think this is more or less nothing but a rats wheel the changes are not changes and haven't been for a very long time. Nearly every time it's a net negative anymore.

People should stop thinking that league start stats mean anything. Wait a month for meta to appear, then compare what is played and what is not.

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Valkaneer wrote:

Here we are, we'll be going on 6 leagues now of Bows being top dog and the same skills still being the best skills.

GGG: "We heard you! Next League bow skills will be nerfed to be on par with other skills."

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esostaks wrote:

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Valkaneer wrote:

Here we are, we'll be going on 6 leagues now of Bows being top dog and the same skills still being the best skills.

GGG: "We heard you! Next League bow skills will be nerfed to be on par with other skills."

Not gonna happen. Ts is meta pretty much since Prophecy league (maybe even longer)

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esostaks wrote:

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Valkaneer wrote:

Here we are, we'll be going on 6 leagues now of Bows being top dog and the same skills still being the best skills.

GGG: "We heard you! Next League bow skills will be nerfed to be on par with other skills."

If you have to invent an imaginary statement and attribute it to GGG to level your criticism, you know it's a bad one. They never said that

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Aynix wrote:

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esostaks wrote:

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Valkaneer wrote:

Here we are, we'll be going on 6 leagues now of Bows being top dog and the same skills still being the best skills.

GGG: "We heard you! Next League bow skills will be nerfed to be on par with other skills."

Not gonna happen. Ts is meta pretty much since Prophecy league (maybe even longer)

It's been meta since they nerfed Lightning Strike and Venom Gyer. What makes me laugh is all these people that say "Only 10%" play melee but every time any skill even GGG considers melee does good it get's nerfed while Ranged and Caster skills get buffed.

The one and only last standing melee skill is BoneZone, Since the first 2 days of the league the Delve page was a solid wall of BoneZone I don't think it will survive next patch.

Not that it will matter that 30% of all builds were Deadeye and 17% were Lightning Arrow, I'm sure the nerf will come to BoneZone and LA will probably be buffed again.

If only they could add more tgems next league

Losing alt quality blood rage and assassin's mark means many people lost the only way for them to get power and frenzy charges against bosses. This is a MASSIVE nerf.

Its been meta before Venom Gyre even existed. It was already meta in Prophecy league thanks to legacy RoTC. "Ass Reach" was just as popular as TS Deadeye is nowadays.
And even before that LA was meta thanks to interaction with Frost Wall (which was later removed)
TS and LA are pretty much top mapping skills since ancient times and it will never change.

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hmcg020 wrote:

Losing alt quality blood rage and assassin's mark means many people lost the only way for them to get power and frenzy charges against bosses. This is a MASSIVE nerf.

You meant they lost EASY way to generate those. Now they actually need to think how to get them instead slapping one gem and calling it a day.

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Aynix wrote:

Its been meta before Venom Gyre even existed. It was already meta in Prophecy league thanks to legacy RoTC. "Ass Reach" was just as popular as TS Deadeye is nowadays.
And even before that LA was meta thanks to interaction with Frost Wall (which was later removed)
TS and LA are pretty much top mapping skills since ancient times and it will never change.

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hmcg020 wrote:

Losing alt quality blood rage and assassin's mark means many people lost the only way for them to get power and frenzy charges against bosses. This is a MASSIVE nerf.

You meant they lost EASY way to generate those. Now they actually need to think how to get them instead slapping one gem and calling it a day.

Ah NVM, they added a new jewel which can roll frenzy on hit, power charge on crit and 100% increased charge duration. Then add something like fortify on hit or one of the other immensely OP mods without having to spend a single gem slot. I think that's even easier.