Extremely disapointing melee offerings.... as is tradition

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Valkaneer wrote:

Cold Dot was still self cast and DD is self cast and possibly the strongest Starter. Exsanguinate and Reap a very popular build is mainly self cast.

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Aynix wrote:

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alhazred70 wrote:

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hasatt0 wrote:

Melee in PoE reminds me of the good old days in d2 when a moderately geared blizz sorc could clear baal runs 10x faster than a fully loaded melee barb with breath of the dying sword/axe.

I guess all ARPG devs are afraid of melee power.

I mean... to this day two of the top Uber builds in D2 are Shield bash (Sunder? was it called?) Paladin and Frenzy (I think) barb. Another top Uber slayer weas a Melee Druid build I can't recall the specifics of.

The point is even in D2 Melee had a niche where it was good.

GGG trying to reinvent the wheel when all they need to do is make it so melee has such a niche.

You know why melee was good in D2? Because D2 had immunities so going with spells and locking yourself behind an element was bad idea. That is single reason of that. PoE doesnt have monsters that are "immune to cold" for example so spell prevail.

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DeLJaDe wrote:

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Valkaneer wrote:

Cold Dot was still self cast and DD is self cast and possibly the strongest Starter. Exsanguinate and Reap a very popular build is mainly self cast.

All of these are damage over time, DD is ignite. Nobody actually sits and casts spells.

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Valkaneer wrote:

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Xyel wrote:

Some of the melee skills look good, even great.

Though admittedly, that wildstrike casting cost shows that GGG really doesn't like melee skills/considers them hardmode. Like, you wanna do good damage?

With spell or a projectile, here you go. With a dex melee skill? All right, but the best we can do is the small price of ~100 life + mana + ES per hit.

Which ones look good or great? And what new melee gems out perform plain old nomral Boneshatter? After the Heatshiver nerf all cold based build are scuffed. I think you have only two possible melee. That new Cleave and Consecrated Path. Cleave has sever drawbacks of requiring DW. Which caster build require DW wands? Or how about requires a certain kind of Wand? Look at that Lacerate of Butchering, 40% swing speed @ 310%, and that's it? With no Bleed? You got to be kidding me, Boneshatter can hit over 400% with it's AoE and it has stun duration, and Groundslam of Earthshaking can hit 340% @ 70% speed.

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alhazred70 wrote:

.and most of the melee offerings are really uninspired, conservatively Balanced and mechanically uninteresting. Wildstrike looks nice...

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alhazred70 wrote:

Almost every Minion base skill has three variations

The vast majority of Spells have THREE VARATIONS

almost no Melee skills have three...

(I think 3 melee skills got a 3rd variant).

and most of the melee offerings are really uninspired, conservatively Balanced and mechanically uninteresting. Wildstrike looks nice, and I guess Lacerate does bleeds a little better than it used to so is now compeative with Melee bleed, which does a tiny fraction of the damage of Bow bleed. Bleed maybe does 3% or 5% of the damage of typical spell dots so still trash and not worth giving up a nice safe easy to scale spell.

GGG ignoring melee ... classic

You guys ever considered hiring someone that specializes in the playstyle? Pretty sure Quin69 would design good melee stuff and he has a cuckshed he needs to pay for. (his ideas would at least be hipster and interesting)... maybe hire him, or bring him in as a consultant since its apparently the case that there's little to no zest or excitement over there for the playstyle.