Did they finally kill RF?

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Anscendant wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

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Vindicit wrote:

You dont nerf a skill by giving it a completely changed mechanic. You just give it less base damage. But thats not what they did. Also no developer wants to make changes just so the community can just ditch the skill altogether.

You actually do. GGG has always said taht changing just numbers is boring and it wont fix the problem (whether it needs buff of nerf). So they rework something to buff or nerf it.
Also only people who will "ditch it completly" are those who cry on the forum that the skill is dead now. 99% of RF players who dont bother with Forum/reddit will still roll as RF or just switch to other skill as typical meta slave.

I just looked at your character page and I found out to my not so great surprise that you have never played RF. For someone who has never played RF, you sure have an awful lot to say about the skill.

thats what i was trying to tell aswell

rf is better now u can actually play a RIGHTEOUS FIRE BUILD not a fire trap build

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openup001 wrote:

rf is better now u can actually play a RIGHTEOUS FIRE BUILD not a fire trap build

no it isnt better its literally worse in dmg

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You dont nerf a skill by giving it a completely changed mechanic

Said a million times , it is the same old vanilla RF that has no flat damage.


Yes, GGG change the monster resistance and hp a lot so that 2.0 RF build may not work, but not entirely kill the RF gem

If you build only rely on RF and Heatshiver and some other gems as combo, then it is your build problem. The devs nerf and change skill mechanic all the time so that it is not the first time RF has changed.


Still waiting the info of all alternative skill gem and support gem anyway

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Anscendant wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

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Vindicit wrote:

You dont nerf a skill by giving it a completely changed mechanic. You just give it less base damage. But thats not what they did. Also no developer wants to make changes just so the community can just ditch the skill altogether.

You actually do. GGG has always said taht changing just numbers is boring and it wont fix the problem (whether it needs buff of nerf). So they rework something to buff or nerf it.
Also only people who will "ditch it completly" are those who cry on the forum that the skill is dead now. 99% of RF players who dont bother with Forum/reddit will still roll as RF or just switch to other skill as typical meta slave.

I just looked at your character page and I found out to my not so great surprise that you have never played RF. For someone who has never played RF, you sure have an awful lot to say about the skill.

Yeah, sorry, walking simulator is not my type. I play this game for over 10 years. I know enough about every build in the existence to talk about it. Its not rocket science. Oh, sorry, if you just copied build from your God Pohx then I guess talking about any other build is rocket science, since you have no idea how even build you play works. Just wait for your idol to update his website and you will be fine.
Alsoe ven if I played it, you wouldnt know. You really think characters visible on my profile are all I played? I deleted hundreds of characters over time simply because i have no space for more.

Forgive me, but isn't the new version of RF normal gem just the old version? the one from a couple of years ago? before someone copied the build and claimed to be the creator? Listen to me guys, it won't be the same as starter build, but in 3.23 RF normal gem the damage is doubled, RF has always cost a lot now it will cost a lot more. Stack Mana convert Mana into Energy Shield. Someone will need to copy again.

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battolsct wrote:

Forgive me, but isn't the new version of RF normal gem just the old version? the one from a couple of years ago? before someone copied the build and claimed to be the creator? Listen to me guys, it won't be the same as starter build, but in 3.23 RF normal gem the damage is doubled, RF has always cost a lot now it will cost a lot more. Stack Mana convert Mana into Energy Shield. Someone will need to copy again.

Yes, but everyone who is upset that their beloved RF "got deleted" most likely never played RF build in those days. So no suprise here.

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battolsct wrote:

Forgive me, but isn't the new version of RF normal gem just the old version? the one from a couple of years ago? before someone copied the build and claimed to be the creator? Listen to me guys, it won't be the same as starter build, but in 3.23 RF normal gem the damage is doubled, RF has always cost a lot now it will cost a lot more. Stack Mana convert Mana into Energy Shield. Someone will need to copy again.

It is the "same" old pre-3.8 RF, but now scale with 70% of your hp instead of 40%, and no flat DOT


It is a long road that even 70% may not feel the same as 40% but in vanilla POE era anyway, due to duff to monsters

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Aynix wrote:

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battolsct wrote:

Forgive me, but isn't the new version of RF normal gem just the old version? the one from a couple of years ago? before someone copied the build and claimed to be the creator? Listen to me guys, it won't be the same as starter build, but in 3.23 RF normal gem the damage is doubled, RF has always cost a lot now it will cost a lot more. Stack Mana convert Mana into Energy Shield. Someone will need to copy again.

Yes, but everyone who is upset that their beloved RF "got deleted" most likely never played RF build in those days. So no suprise here.

They cry also probably due to their build guide told them the only choice of helmet is Heatshiver

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neohongkong wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

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battolsct wrote:

Forgive me, but isn't the new version of RF normal gem just the old version? the one from a couple of years ago? before someone copied the build and claimed to be the creator? Listen to me guys, it won't be the same as starter build, but in 3.23 RF normal gem the damage is doubled, RF has always cost a lot now it will cost a lot more. Stack Mana convert Mana into Energy Shield. Someone will need to copy again.

Yes, but everyone who is upset that their beloved RF "got deleted" most likely never played RF build in those days. So no suprise here.

They cry also probably due to their build guide told them the only choice of helmet is Heatshiver

Actually now that I think about it main reason why tehy cry so much might be because Pohx told them "RF bad now". DOubt they can even think for themselves whetehr something is buff or nerf unless person who made their build told them so.