Who else has been playing for almost a decade in permanent leagues and is still poor?

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1453R wrote:

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Gopstop22 wrote:

idk how do people arent able to make currency for example one of the easiest ways imo is doing 80% deli scarab maps every 50 maps i did i made 23-25 divines every single time with TFT bulk sell was selling my entire scarab tab for that price and it took me like few hours to run them very chill and easy also im talking about only scarab profit from 50 maps that also includes the coverage for how much i invested into delirium orbs and i still got profit of 23-25 divines also not to mention the other loot you get from running 50 maps becuz of atlas nodes and league mechanics you had in it so basically was making bank with very chill gameplay

"I don't know why people can't make money. All they need to do is build a character that can do 80% Delirious T16 maps every single time without fail without any currency to build that character with, acquire hundreds of extremely specific and expensive Delirium Orbs to constantly feed that supply of Delirious T16 maps before making any currency from doing them, then go to a third-party web service known for being abusive, fickle, and having very high requirements for use to offload an entire stash tab loaded to the brim with a specific item type almost nobody uses or has available. It's so chill anybody could do it."

A'ight. Now make a profit using only the Grinding Gear trade system integrated into this website, selling singleton items you get from doing alch-and-go map drops because you cannot afford either the character build needed to run gigajuiced maps or the items needed to gigajuice those maps in the first place.

The reason poor people are poor is pretty much exactly this. "Making money" in Path of Exile requires doing a bunch of super unintuitive Weird Shit nobody ever explains and making entire characters dedicated to nothing but one single tiny narrow niche activity. You cannot make money in Path of Exile by playing Path of Exile. Progressing your Atlas, going after the Exarch/Eater/Maven, and doing ordinary endgame activity is effectively profitless. If you want money, you have to be on TFT farming weird shit nobody ever buys or uses except for gigajuicers who think nothing of spending four or five divines to juice one map to levels that ordinary players don't really realize is even possible before blowing through that map in thirteen seconds using a character that ran them four or five mirrors to assemble.

That's why poor people are poor. They play the regular game, not the Money Meta that only gigajuicers and PoE ultrachads know exists.

theres bunch of different ways how you can make easy currency i just named one

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1453R wrote:

The reason poor people are poor is pretty much exactly this. "Making money" in Path of Exile requires doing a bunch of super unintuitive Weird Shit nobody ever explains and making entire characters dedicated to nothing but one single tiny narrow niche activity. You cannot make money in Path of Exile by playing Path of Exile. Progressing your Atlas, going after the Exarch/Eater/Maven, and doing ordinary endgame activity is effectively profitless. If you want money, you have to be on TFT farming weird shit nobody ever buys or uses except for gigajuicers who think nothing of spending four or five divines to juice one map to levels that ordinary players don't really realize is even possible before blowing through that map in thirteen seconds using a character that ran them four or five mirrors to assemble.

That's why poor people are poor. They play the regular game, not the Money Meta that only gigajuicers and PoE ultrachads know exists.

-Gift to the Goddess
-Maven's Writ
-Sacred Blossom
-Blueprints
-Uber Elder Fragments
-UnID'd Watchers eyes
-Screaming Invitation
-Incandescent Invitation

Any of these items can be farmed by 'just playing PoE's endgame' and all of them sell for a ton and they don't have to be sold in bulk. Just 1 on its own is worth listing and trading for currency.

TFT isn't just for bulk-listing entire tabs of essences or scarabs. There's a frictionless side to TFT if you just sell things that people have buy orders for: They list the item, price and quantity they want and their in-game name. All you do is whisper them in game and the trade is no harder than using the official site--I do this often for selling stacked decks.

There's almost an endless amount of simple crafts you can do for profit. It requires you to know what items people need for meta builds and how to identify what can easily be crafted for far less than market value but this is something you learn as you play the game. Try crafting your own gear/cluster jewels--you can often find things to make that are cheaper than buying the finished product. Carry that knowledge forward into future leagues and you'll build a repertoire of low effort crafts that make you money.

I'll give you an example. There are always attribute-stacking builds. These builds almost always use synthesized belts and/or amulets with %attribute implicits. Buy a high ilvl belt with a top tier dex implicit (for example). Scour it white, Blessed orb it to its max roll. Use four Intrinsic Catalysts to boost attributes on the item by 20%. Finally, roll the item with Defining Essences of Sorrow to guarantee a max dex suffix. Keep rolling until you hit 2 other desirable affixes rolled well, like life and a resist or another attribute. You can do this for Int belts. You can do it for Strength belts. Doesn't matter. People will pay a lot more for it than you spent. All it takes is basic AF crafting currencies.

Bonus: You can find your own synthesis jewellery by doing heists. I've had some leagues where I've made dozens of divines just from these base item drops--sometimes they get duplicated too.

Yes, there's a lot of streamers who leverage TFT to squeeze profit out of every mapping strategy. But no, that's not the only way to earn a profit in PoE.

Perhaps PoE wasn't originally intended for player to become "rich?" We all start as exiles, chucked off a boat in our skivvies with a trash weapon. The people we trade with are impoverished exiles like us, not a world full of gigatraders.

Pretty sure that's why GGG created trade with so much friction. I don't care for trade; it's bothersome and would contribute little to my own play of the game except, perhaps, to enable me to create the kind of overtuned builds favored by the "1%". I don't want to be "rich;" I want a challenging game experience in which the challenge comes from fighting monsters, not from squeezing the last, weeping orb out of farming stuff I wouldn't even use myself. =9[.]9=

I have played Path of Exile on and off for about 3k hours since Closed Beta, which means for over a decade. In Permanent League, I was able to hoard at most about 55 Exalted Orbs, mostly becaused I for some reason had many Item Quantity Gems and some other very precious stuff that got removed later.

But I have to say: 3k hours and a decade later and I've never dropped a Mirror of Kalandra. This is really silly, but that's how it is. I guess it'll take me 95 years to drop a Harlequin's Crest in Diablo 4.

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Phrazz wrote:

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dickhole_mcghee wrote:

But if you're serious, I hope it's because you noticed what was happening in the first screenshot I posted.

The "new" Heatshivers go for about 20c in standard. The guy just went by the prices for the old one and priced it at 1alch lol. So instead of buying it, I told him that he was about to make a mistake and showed him my Heatshiver and told him to look at the different mods.

That's one reason I'm poor.

I can't even remember the legacy version of Heatshiver :P Is that the one with +2 to fire and cold gems or something?

I am serious, tho. And I can value honesty, like you're doing in the SS. The problem here is, that my PC is in boxes as I'm moving these days. I can come back to you if you want.

There are a couple legacy Heatshivers, the one you mention and then the "30% increased fire damage if you used cold recently" and vice versa. And then this one, which I don't want to call attention to for fear of Chris Wilson wielding his nerf hammer.

About the standard currency, if I don't drop a few mirrors I'll remind you later.

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markus7 wrote:

I have played Path of Exile on and off for about 3k hours since Closed Beta, which means for over a decade. In Permanent League, I was able to hoard at most about 55 Exalted Orbs, mostly becaused I for some reason had many Item Quantity Gems and some other very precious stuff that got removed later.

But I have to say: 3k hours and a decade later and I've never dropped a Mirror of Kalandra. This is really silly, but that's how it is. I guess it'll take me 95 years to drop a Harlequin's Crest in Diablo 4.

Mirrors of Kalandra aren't real, they're like fishing ponds.

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Raycheetah wrote:

Playing for over a decade means I've been enjoying the game for over a decade.

This.

I didn't start this thread to complain about being poor, rather to humblebrag about being nice.

i m not playing STD exclusively but i can say this, playing over 10 years i have accrued much wealth in the form of gear.

whenever a temp league is released, i make a conscious decision, those the temp league have something that can improve my gear in std?

i have been playing many temp leagues. many GG items are significantly cheaper in temp leagues rather than on STD.

right before the exalt/divine change happened, i had accumulated near 200 exalts. i was planning to grab a legacy acquity. that plan has been put on hold indefinitely after the switch.

i have recently converted most of my std currency into divines. i am at 135 divines right now. not too far to get my first mage blood.

an interesting note is that before converting/merging my past league stash tabs, i realized something.

i had accrued more wealth in Sanctum league compared to all my wealth on STD. i had used around 200 divines in sanctum. its crazy.

even in crucible which is one of the leagues i m struggling with a huge lot, i so far have earned and spent 100 ++ divines.

i dont know what GGG has in store for the future. but what i do know is, as long as the temp league can provide me an edge, i would play temp league.

i know i am not poor. i know there are others vastly richer. what i can say is, if you want wealth, you have to work for it.