POE 2 speed slowed down. Yay or Nay ?
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I'm personally not a fan of how fast the game has become. It's either you go all in or trying to enjoy the game is a living nightmare. As by the time you start making progress it's over for those who sped through everything in a few weeks at most.
Then maps boil down to killing things at such a hilariously fast speed it can become incredibly difficult to even say what happened. Maps done though. Where's the fun in that? Everything in this game right now boils down to speed, and knowing 50 different convoluted mechanics. Having depth is fine. Asinine complexity for the sake of it is not. I don't get any fun out of the current version of the game. It just feels tedious on a good day. Beyond that it serves to chase my friends off an ensure they won't touch the game again. Couple that with the other problems I've mentioned, and countless I haven't? I'm surprised the game is doing as well as it is. There has to be a better way to approach it. Right now there doesn't seem to be any real benefit to what they do. I'm hoping PoE2 changes up things drastically in terms of gameplay. It needs it - in my opinion. https://www.pathofexile.com/shop - Support Path of Exile!
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" What is forcing you to rush content to be as fast as them? | |
" Who is judging your gameplay or currency? | |
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You are, for one. Your stance since you've entered the thread is that Megafast Hyperspeed Religion of Zoom players should be allowed to be as fast as they can possibly get no matter what it costs the rest of the game or how badly it hurts natural-pace players. You've been telling me to shut up, uninstall, and leave forever the entire time.
Like Genobee said, if it takes you two or three weeks to get to 'The Beginning of Endgame' in a league because you, I don't know, work for a living or have other calls on your time beyond no-lifing the new league? Most of the economic activity in the league is already over. People are abandoning the league, and furthermore they're actively encouraging everyone else to quit too because once the Religion of Zoom turbosweats are done they don't like it when anybody else still plays. When they're done, EVERYBODY should be done no matter what, and they'll sabotage people to try and make that happen. | |
" So you're bitter because you don't have time to play like the big boys. I might be too if I pissed away all that money for forum badges but, hey, play at your leisure. It ain't the end of the world if you have to play for a couple of months. No one is taking the ball home with them. Speed meta 4evah baby! Slow PoE is no PoE |
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" I might be projecting in the other guy's and maybe putting stuff on his mouth, but... Fairly sure hes unaware of how much currency you have, how long you take to clear a map and thus, hes not judging anything about your gameplay as im fairly sure he dont know anything about it... Like... he seems to just be saying that players should have the option to play super fast, wether other players want to play slower dont seem to be part of his point, he seems to be saying HE wants to play fast and dont want to be forced to slow down IDK where you pulled that idea that people are judging you for playing slower, or where you fished the notion that your way of playing is the "natural-pace"... youre not the center of the universe, dude, i dont think anyone cares how you play and GGG staff are the only ones who may have any say on what is the "natural pace" so stop that mentality that you alone hold the virtuous holy spot where everyone below is a scrub and everyone above is a no-lifer " Trade league is perfectly alive, even on standard. You seem to have fished from steam charts the notion that the game turns into ghost towns after the first weeks or maybe you seem to have that intelectually dubious notion that if the streamers abandoned the game, you should follow suit You talk about "work for a living", well, maybe try doing the mature thing and stop just following the steps of the "cool people"? | |
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I preffer 100x faster and fun.
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after seeing how they managed to ruin everything in D4 I hope not, I hope they change as little as possible. because after playing D4 I saw that I was happy with PoE and I didn't know
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Lemme put this in perspective.
You see this build? This build - this 70k ES Righteous Fire build so overgeared it can AFK The Feared while down two gem slots, with a teleport-fast Shield Charge and an RF so powerful it erases monsters literally the instant they enter the field no matter their level or mods? This is what Religion of Zoom players are saying "any halfway competent nitwit with three chaos to rub together" should be able to build and play within about two days of league start, tops. This build is a default floor level of 'tolerable', and anything worse than this build is held to be utterly unplayable. Anyone who's playing such a build anyways is held to be a worthless peon that doesn't deserve to run the game and should uninstall not only Path of Exile but preferably every other video game on their system before burying their computer and going to join a nunnery. Because to hear Religion of Zoom players say it, this isn't even a fast build. It's got super low pinnacle DPS, only ~44M with Vall Righteous Fire active, and it can only kill/clear monsters that are on the screen instead of being able to kill shit three screens away. This is unsustainable. The number of players who can live up to that sort of standard - a standard, I remind you, that Religion of Zoom players insist Grinding Gear develop, design, and cater the game towards EXCLUSIVELY, while utterly ignoring anyone less capable than this 70k instaclear Righteous Fire build when they are not actively making the game less playable for those people - is so small it amounts to statistical noise. The number of people who will ever have a build with even five percent of this monstrosity's capabilities can be counted in the hundreds, not the thousands, and yet Religion of Zoom players are insisting the entire game be designed such that this is the level of build you need just to break past white maps. It's absurd, it's unsustainable, it's outrageous, and it fundamentally cannot be financially viable. They CANNOT make the entire game unplayable for anyone below this level of character power/speed, no matter how much or how often Religion of Zoom people try and demand it. Last edited by 1453R on Jul 18, 2023, 12:00:52 PM
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" Wrong. People aren't saying that. At all. What people are saying, is that A LOT of builds can do closed to all content on a very limited budget. There are PLENTY of "1 divine challenge" (and less/more) out there, showcasing that "insane scaling" isn't needed at all. The insane scaling is what keeps dedicated players interested. Something to strive towards in the long run - AFTER they've earn some coin. When this kind of speed isn't - in any way, shape or form - needed, nor balanced around, I don't see the huge problem here. It would've been a HUGE problem if these kinds of builds where the center of balance. Luckily, they aren't - and if anyone would ever claim that, they'd be dead wrong. You link an INSANE outlier of a build to use as an example to hyperbole your point. I could spend 5 seconds on Youtube, finding a slow build that could beat all content. Both examples would probably be useless. GGG does not "cater" to those builds more than others. They make builds like that POSSIBLE through dedication, effort and investment as a carrot. The whole point (IMO) of an ARPG is to progress and become more powerful than the environment. PoE lets you do that - and then some. That approach is MUCH better than certain other ARPGs where everything scale based on you, and you 'always' seem kind of lacking. Should PoE slow down? Maybe a little bit. But PoE's speed is kind of its signature at this point, as has been for years. It's what separates PoE from other ARPGs. PoE should NOT strive to be more like its competition. If people like slow, tactical gameplay where you fight an elite pack for minutes, there are several games out there that lets you do that. PoE does not need to cater to that. Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you. Last edited by Phrazz on Jul 18, 2023, 12:23:40 PM
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