Fossil crafting for more +Gem question

Trying fossil crafting for the first time. I read a guide that to get +2 Socketed Bow and +1 All Socketed level, I need to put Jagged, Metallic and Corroded.

I got a Shaper bow because I want +20% more damage of socket gem.

Do I add Faceted fossil to increase my chance of getting:

+2 Level of Socketed Bow
+1 Level of all Socketed
+20% more damage of socket

All three have "Gem" tag.

I am crafting a Tri Elemental Hit bow I want to make sure before I spend too much money into it

PS: Faceted Fossil is quite expensive. Would it be cheaper to just spam Jagged, Metallic and Corroded until I get 20% more damage socket than using Faceted?

yep... before doing some more expensive crafts, always consult craft of exile in order to see the odds and check how to optimize them (or stepping back from the project and simply invest into a finished product).

oh will try that program. thanks!! but over 47 tries? that's going to be so expensive!!! holy


Is it bad to just use Harvest "craft more Attack" mods and try my luck there?

https://www.craftofexile.com/?b=20&m=fossil&i=|2|&lv=83&ob=both&v=d&a=e&l=a&lg=13&bp=y&as=1&hb=0&req={%221987%22:{%22l%22:64,%22g%22:1},%221991%22:{%22l%22:50,%22g%22:2},%222593%22:{%22l%22:83,%22g%22:3}}&bld={}&im={}&ggt=|&ccp={}

Depending on the suffixes you're aiming for, I would reccomend to go down to ilvl 83 bow. That's the lowest level you can go for the shaper mod. while it won't change thaaaat much, it at least kicks 2 possible mods out of the pool. (for chaos spam the amount goes down to 307k form 332k)

Hmm.. unless you aim for 2 additional arrows as suffix (which would be a hellish task to get on your bow), I don't see any important stuff you lock out by lowering the ilvl.


For your aimed prefixes, you end up the most cost efficient with Corroded + Jagged + Metallic. 125 tries, 1980 chaos spend.

A "simple" +3 socketed gem bow with a random 3rd prefix, would be alot cheaper using fossils.
Aetheric + Corroded + Metallic, 8 tries, 74 chaos spend.

Sorry another question.

I see there is Prefix and Suffix cannot be changed in the crafting table.

I am happy to get a mixture of:

Tier Elemental damage attack
+1 socketed
+2 socketed
Elemental penetration from Shaper
20% more socketed gem damage


If I am lucky to get all 3 prefixes and I put Prefix cannot be changed, I can then use Harvest to craft "roll more Critical" for suffix and that WILL NOT change my prefix right?

And if I somehow get the 3 Suffixes I like, I can put Suffix cannot be changed and just keep rolling Harvest or Fossil for prefixes right?

I just want to make sure Harvest and Fossil do not over write my "Suffix/Prefix can't be changed"

My other problem is my bow is Shaper. It may be easier to use a regular Bow instead to get +1/+2. I don't even think Plus 1 gives me that much more damage.

For +1 socketed, +2 bow gems, %shaper elemental pen:

For +1 socketed gems, +2 bow gems, %more damage with socketed attacks:

Method 1 requires beasts and elemental pen is probably worse but the method is cheaper. Method 2 is obviously more expensive and requires a lot of essences but the outcome is probably better.

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chinesefoodverygood wrote:

If I am lucky to get all 3 prefixes and I put Prefix cannot be changed, I can then use Harvest to craft "roll more Critical" for suffix and that WILL NOT change my prefix right?

Correct. However, this only works with currency items (like chaos, scours, annuls) and harvest. Essences & fossils do NOT respect 'prefixes cannot' or 'suffixes cannot' like that.

Sidenote: 4 socket resonators are almost always a terrible idea with very few exceptions.

Thank you for the detailed explanation. I have been playing this game for 4-5 years and yet I never enjoy crafting. I find this game's crafting extremely complicated. lol The only crafting I have done is just spamming Essence.


I will try the Essence route.

I thought Harvest was the easiest way since people told me to take harvest passives if I want to craft.

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Scarletsword wrote:

For +1 socketed, +2 bow gems, %shaper elemental pen:

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Step 1: Get the shaper base. Prefixes require ilvl83 and I do not know what suffixes you're trying to get but the lower the ilvl the better.

Step 2: You can guarantee +2 socketed bow gems with 'Deafening Essence of Dread'.

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Step 3: Make sure the +2 modifier is the only prefix by annuling off other mods. This allows you to make the item blue by crafting 'prefixes cannot be changed' and using an orb of scouring on the item.

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Step 4: Benchcraft 'cannot roll attack mods' and use an imprint beast to save yourself the divines from previous steps.

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Step 5 (the expensive part): Regal => spam exalt => annul & exalt until you either a.) hit your desired prefixes or b.) remove the 'cannot roll attack mods'.
If "a" happens - congrats! and if "b" happens reroll the item back with your imprint and get a new imprint then repeat the regal => exalt process.

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For +1 socketed gems, +2 bow gems, %more damage with socketed attacks:

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Step 1: Get the shaper base. Prefixes require ilvl83 and I do not know what suffixes you're trying to get but the lower the ilvl the better.

Step 2: You can guarantee +2 socketed bow gems with 'Deafening Essence of Dread'. Repeat until you also hit 'socketed skills deal % more attack damage (1:90 chance). Make sure the item has only these 2 prefixes and 2 random suffixes by annuling.

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Step 3: Craft 'cannot roll attack mods' to fill up suffixes.

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Step 4: Exalted Orb for +1 socketed gems (1:10 chance). You can move on to suffixes if it hits or you go back to step 2 and spamming essences if it doesn't hit.

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Method 1 requires beasts and elemental pen is probably worse but the method is cheaper. Method 2 is obviously more expensive and requires a lot of essences but the outcome is probably better.

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chinesefoodverygood wrote:

If I am lucky to get all 3 prefixes and I put Prefix cannot be changed, I can then use Harvest to craft "roll more Critical" for suffix and that WILL NOT change my prefix right?

Correct. However, this only works with currency items (like chaos, scours, annuls) and harvest. Essences & fossils do NOT respect 'prefixes cannot' or 'suffixes cannot' like that.

Sidenote: 4 socket resonators are almost always a terrible idea with very few exceptions.

Oh good to know that Fossil and Essence will over-write "prefix cannot". So once I get the 3 prefix I want, I put "previx cannot be changed" in suffix. And then I just use Exalted or Veiled to fill the last 3 spots? ugh. the process seems very complicated.

Maybe easier to just go for 5 mods with two suffixes (craft up to 3 suffix).