AAA games moving to $70 base pricepoint? Reasonable or Greedy?

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

Even at the upper end, GGG are only interested in dolphins, not whales.

Maybe POE isn't whale natural habitat. POE doesn't have many large whales, GGG has to catch smaller whales or dolphins. Of necessity rather than they are not interested.

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awesome999 wrote:

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

Even at the upper end, GGG are only interested in dolphins, not whales.

Maybe POE isn't whale natural habitat. POE doesn't have many large whales, GGG has to catch smaller whales or dolphins. Of necessity rather than they are not interested.

The necessity for one reduces their interest in the other. Word games are fun, but usually only when more than one person is playing.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

The necessity for one reduces their interest in the other. Word games are fun, but usually only when more than one person is playing.

Not really. It is like saying GGG isn't interested in earning billions of dollars instead of interested in earning millions of dollars. The problem is in their capability and scarcity not their interest. Not word game or semantic but accuracy and precision correctness. I hope humour is not lost on you. GGG is interested in earning alot alot of money instead earn less money than they wanted. I believe that is approximately right.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

...I fucking love the way German smashes words together and when you do it in English it just hums with intensity and urgency.

TIL the word 'stellarator' though. That's interesting AF.

I guess we never got the option to sail across an ocean just to ask a random indigenous rainforestdweller how to name this new invention, its like a boot for hands.

I learned in the internet, my teacher had problems explaining the "Why though", ... sentencestructure, timeframes, from where they got that random word suddenly... but she gave explicit instructions on whats bri´ish and murican,
so atleast now i should know which ones get triggered by adding a silent U to colour.

I atleast value your dedication to proofreaderismn, compared to the usual wordburglars in the deep english commentsection i often have to guess if they just wrote the first and last letter and filled the inbetween with stuff to let me keep guessing. And yes i had to google TIL, i always thought stellerator/Teilchenbeschleuniger is a english one.

*loltears* fuckingstopplease I'm trying to take this veryseriously here..!

Bringing half assed games on the market, want more money for it.

Wtf is this ?

Well again the concept isn't exactly should they, because that's pretty subjective in terms of gatekeeping revenues, it's more can they, anticipating what most gamers accepting the additional costs will be.

I think a number of people will want to play right away and pretty much pay whatever(like I'm pre-ordering the $100 D4 Edition and couldn't care less), but yet others might wait until things are on sale post-release. For example, I think I paid $9.99 for Cyberpunk, and haven't even played it yet. I hear that it's in a decent place right now compared to what it was, and just thought ten bucks was worth it. No way I was paying $60 for that.

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DarthSki44 wrote:

For example, I think I paid $9.99 for Cyberpunk, and haven't even played it yet. I hear that it's in a decent place right now compared to what it was, and just thought ten bucks was worth it. No way I was paying $60 for that.

I did something similar -- saw it at half price on PSN, nabbed it. Let it sort of just...sit there until, lol, Cyberpunk Edgerunners came out. I don't think there was any coincidence with the timing of that anime (which was top shelf all the way) and the game itself being in a state CDPR were happy to advertise. Needless to say, player numbers after CPER came out went through the roof.

And oh man did I have a fucking fun month or two with it. It's the first game I've ever *almost* platinumed, and most of those achievements came just with the necessary playthroughs to see pretty much everything.

Night City was my home for all that time. I especially loved the haptic feedback on the DualSense controller -- each vehicle felt different to drive. The ways the gears changed. The acceleration. The braking. Everything.

Pro-tip: quickhacking fucking rules. No surprise there -- everyone is jacked in and hilariously lazy about their security.

PS me too re D4. I read a really disturbing article about D4's development hell on WaPo (the Ruler of Eterra shared it with me, bless the man) that basic indicated that for years the game languished under shitbags like McRee, who would tell entire teams to go do something, and then reject it outright after weeks of work. Fuuuuck that. Then they hired a writer who wanted to put r*pe into the game. Like, uh, no. Finally, they found their direction and now the only problem is the crunch to release in six months is probably going to kill someone. I'd happily wait another year if they need it, but once they said June 2023, that was it. These poor devs are screwed no matter what.

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鬼殺し wrote:

now the only problem is the crunch to release in six months is probably going to kill someone. I'd happily wait another year if they need it, but once they said June 2023, that was it. These poor devs are screwed no matter what.

I think crunch is a thing that can be minimized and managed, but it's just a byproduct of game development now. All the big studios deal with it, CDPR, TakeTwo, Bungie, to name a few... but to your point, Blizzard is their own publisher, so if they actually wanted, they could have delayed. That shipped has now sailed with that major reveal.

I do think June is interesting time as well. It's fully nostalgic as D2 launched in June 20+ years ago. It's also a few weeks before Exilecon, and if you listened to some of the D4 Dev interviews, they are for sure aware of PoE and it's impact. The contrast of a D4 launch to whatever the competitive beta that will be shown at Exilecon might be dramatic, and really push momentum one way or the other. I don't exactly know what the PoE 4.0 launch window is supposed to be, but likely it's in 1st quarter of 2024, which gives D4 PLENTY of time to set it's feet. Which leads to my next point.

D4 is being developed as a quarterly live-service game. They are going to be able to iron out and tweak as they go along. I'm sure they have a 10 year+ plan here, so while launch is a big deal, it's just the start of the story, and it doesn't have to be perfect. Not to mention a minimum 6-9 month head start on the biggest competitor in the arpg market.

I haven't seen anything to indicate D4 being a disaster or even remotely close to that. Even if it's just "good" and not "great" that should be a solid enough base to launch Diablo into a live-service Juggernaut. I'm very much looking forward to this summer.

Edit: also thanks for that feedback on Cyberpunk. I might get to that a bit over Xmas break here. I have around 12 days off from work so might spend a decent amount of hours with it.

Side note I also enjoyed Midnight Suns way more than I anticipated. The story & voice acting was far beyond anything I expected, as was a surprisingly decent narrative story (minus the somewhat annoying friendship / dating sim with the other Marvel characters)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2022/12/08/diablo-iv-release-date-crunch/

Decide for yourself. This definitely simmered down my rising hype, which is...great, because I have so much shit to play between now and June I am hoping against hope it's delayed. And by 'I' I mean my gaming group, who rarely agree on much taste-wise (Im the methodical one, another's the fps goon, yet another likes Soulslikes so you can imagine how much struggle to find games that leave us all happy to play rather than just going along to get along) but all agree that D3 was a lot more fun than it had any right to be.

Anyway, go play Cyberpunk. Shut out as much of the world as you can and give it the focus it deserves as a really good single player trip through the future...according to the 80s, back when Japan was THE FUTURE and everyone smoked so of course they'll still be doing that 90 years from now.

edit: I was vaguely interested in MS but then I watched SkillUp's take and yeah, no thanks. There's bad writing at a micro level, which I expect from Marvel and DC to be honest, but then there's bad writing that at a macro level reduces established complex characters to shallow dating sim pieces for an obvious Mary Sue protagonist. Life's too short for that. Besides, if I want that, I'll just go play Fate and watch Jeanne D'Arc cosplay as a swimsuit model while a genderswapped King Arthur runs the local casino in a bunny costume, and both of them call me Master.