widescreen resolution removed from the game.

Okay, performance is a thing people actually care about. How can it relate to people care or not care about being forced into black bars?

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AdRonZh3Ro wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

Okay, let it be tackle who first mentioned cost (won't bother checking it, even though context was likely different from what you imply). If you consider this inappropriate, why throwing same argument on me later? I was responding to you, not to him, and reserving myself from pointing out your straw manning here.

No, it's not "let it be". It was. It's a fact. Period. The only difference is that the argument was to keep it instead of remove. And i'm not implying anything, i'm quoting directly.

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Echothesis wrote:

To get back on track, hardware cost shouldn't be part of either "for" or "against" black bars design. And my non-strawman arguments remain a few (dozen) pages back.

Isn't this what you mean "keeping on track"?

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Echothesis wrote:

Do you mean non-UW monitors are free now? Where can I get mine? :pog: Preferably 3 units at once:)

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AdRonZh3Ro wrote:

Are we really starting to compare QoL that would be free and benefit literally all players to a QoL that affects less than 1% and has a thousand(s) dollar(s) buy in price? Oof...

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Echothesis wrote:

I don't see a difference between this thread and countless other threads.

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tackle70 wrote:

Yup. I didn't spend 2 grand on a 32:9 monitor to look at black bars.

RIP this game until they fix it

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AdRonZh3Ro wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

I don't see a difference between this thread and countless other threads.

Yep. Someone doesn't like trade and complains, other one doesn't like trade and not complains, others don't care whatsoever and use trade bots. The fact that few people complain about UW to this day, like tackle70, is in no way an argument to downplay whole cause, under pretense it is "just one guy who spent 2 grand on his monitor".

You guys have taken it to personalities long time ago, his, mine, whoever, while the topic in essence is no less valid complain than "why cannot remove aegis, can't see my MTX!" topics. Don't remember seeing you there jumping on the OP with "you are tiny minority, suck it up and play".

Him having bought a monitor exclusively for PoE isn't an argument to enlarge the issue either.

I have a melee character with literal months played and i have every "right as a player" to complain that melee is in a terrible spot overall, that totem support is mediocre and melee has a bigger priority than UW could ever have.

I can give the feedback and they can either listen or not, but i'm not egotistical enough to demand something that i have no real rights to demand out of anyone, much less out of a free game, doesn't matter how right i might or not be.

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tackle70 wrote:

I appreciate you guys helping to keep this important problem at the top of the forum and your help repeatedly proving my point that there is no reasonable defense or excuse for putting black bars in this game.

GGG, you're not a small indie dev, you can spare the dev time.

1 year, 315 days

Fix it

This isn't feedback, this is ego.

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Echothesis wrote:

DX12 and new particle system also do not required to play PoE, ask GGG why they went through all the trouble, enduring backlash on performance problems along the way.

First, UW users are not such tiny fraction as you make it to be. Second, supporting them is easier compared to adding another renderer to the game.

A visual and performance update is something all players benefit from.
The latest updates regarding performance have been one of the best changes for the game since a long while, not including game content changes.

Giving gameplay advantage via a different aspect ratio on the other hand does not affect everyone.

And yea the amount of people with a 32:9 is actually tiny, 0.3% across all steam games to be accurate, so less than 0.01% of the PoE playebase if not even less.

In the end Poe is not the only game without 32:9 support, and it wouldn't have been hard to make some research upfront before throwing 2 grand on a bad choice monitor.
Lots of people play on 1080p, 2k, 4k or even 21:9 for very good reasons

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Echothesis wrote:

You guys have taken it to personalities long time ago

Oh if it ain't the pot calling the kettle black.

"Black bar crew"
"White knight movement"

The smug smileys after asking rhetorical questions, too. As if you were a parent smiling at their child saying silly things. It's so condescending.

My favourite has to be "being fully backed by moderators" like what does that even mean? Could it be that one side in this is losing its temper while the other stays rational (and within the confines of the forum ToS)?

Maybe if you wouldn't colour everyone with the same brush and stayed respectful towards others this argument would go differently. After all, people will respond in kind if this is the expected conduct.

For starters, no one said "you are tiny minority, suck it up and play" (your words, not mine). It is not my place to tell you whether to play the game or not. Clearly you have made that decision already. You don't have to "suck it up" either. But you shouldn't make the issue appear larger than it actually is.

When you have a list of 100 things to do but only 24 hours in a day, you will have to prioritize work by urgency and importance. If it's important but not urgent you can do it later. If it's neither urgent nor important, you may decide not to do it at all. Maybe GGG at some point had UW support on a todo but later scrapped the idea. It's not like oit's unheard of in other games, and as a game dev yourself you must know this too.

So when we point out that UW monitors are only used by a tiny fraction of gamers this is what it's about. Have you considered the devs don't want to add UW support to Path of Exile? Because remember, UW support wasn't removed from Path of Exile. The game never had it to begin with.

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So when we point out that UW monitors are only used by a tiny fraction of gamers this is what it's about. Have you considered the devs don't want to add UW support to Path of Exile? Because remember, UW support wasn't removed from Path of Exile. The game never had it to begin with.

... and that is wrong and part of this complaining thread. I play PoE since 2013 and it supported UW since i have startet with the game. Then it was removed.

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dk_daywalker wrote:

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So when we point out that UW monitors are only used by a tiny fraction of gamers this is what it's about. Have you considered the devs don't want to add UW support to Path of Exile? Because remember, UW support wasn't removed from Path of Exile. The game never had it to begin with.

... and that is wrong and part of this complaining thread. I play PoE since 2013 and it supported UW since i have startet with the game. Then it was removed.

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Community_Team wrote:

Previously it was possible to manually set the aspect ratio of the Path of Exile client to be very short and wide, allowing you to see an unintended amount of the level at once. A limit needed to be set. Because of server serialisation distances, this maximum aspect ratio is currently set to 21:9. This is the widest that we can currently go before we start hitting the cutoff where entities and effects vanish. We are looking at being able to increase this in the future.

This note was accidentally missed from the patch notes. We're very sorry for that oversight.

But seriously GGG should at least update if they are going to provide a solution like their post said. It has been years, and many of the people who said this was a deal breaker, left.

In fact GGG should do all manner of qol stuff instead of coyly saying, we'll get back to you, as it were.

Where are the performance upgrades that actually improve things? Performance is worse than 5 years ago.

Where are well rolled items?

Where are fixes to mtx lag?

It isn't hard to sympthasize with a player or group of players who want answers to an unannounced change. Especially when GGG said they were looking into it.

Honestly if GGG isn't going to support uw, they should just say so and move on.