[3.25] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

This league i'll try scion with new ideas!

I hope it works 😅
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whiterockxx wrote:
This league i'll try scion with new ideas!

I hope it works 😅


Hey you're credited with the crit version of WI! I expect at least that level of excellence from you!
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WinterHiko wrote:
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Posomo wrote:
Long time follower of this guide / thread. Gonna start with WI this time around, have played it in the past but only as a 2nd or 3rd character, so leveling has been of the twink variety.
Did some practice leveling runs in standard and I'll have to say I'm not too big of a fan of Icicle Mines in general. What have you guys used as an alternative for leveling before WI / EoW + Unleash? Saw some leveling as spark even. Creeping Frost maybe if I don't want to respec the tree too much?


Cold DOT requires almost no respec. See my post 2-3 pages back. Creeping Frost + Cold Snap + Forst Bomb + Frostbite.

Honestly, since the beginning of leveling is running to the top elemental damage nodes, you can run whatever elemental skill you like and take the appropriate wheel, then you only need a dozen respec points.


As a data point, I did that.

Runs into a wall around level 35 and Kaom/Daresso and the normal build tree (plus Elemental Focus.) Can't do enough dps to the trash mobs. Working on changing the skill gems a bit.

OK, I abandoned vortex (from the cold dot build posted before) and just stuck with WinterHiko's list of 4 spells. That seems to kind of work. Onward!
Last edited by Graiaule#7461 on Mar 29, 2024, 8:09:57 PM
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Graiaule wrote:
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WinterHiko wrote:
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Posomo wrote:
Long time follower of this guide / thread. Gonna start with WI this time around, have played it in the past but only as a 2nd or 3rd character, so leveling has been of the twink variety.
Did some practice leveling runs in standard and I'll have to say I'm not too big of a fan of Icicle Mines in general. What have you guys used as an alternative for leveling before WI / EoW + Unleash? Saw some leveling as spark even. Creeping Frost maybe if I don't want to respec the tree too much?


Cold DOT requires almost no respec. See my post 2-3 pages back. Creeping Frost + Cold Snap + Forst Bomb + Frostbite.

Honestly, since the beginning of leveling is running to the top elemental damage nodes, you can run whatever elemental skill you like and take the appropriate wheel, then you only need a dozen respec points.


As a data point, I did that.

Runs into a wall around level 35 and Kaom/Daresso and the normal build tree (plus Elemental Focus.) Can't do enough dps to the trash mobs. Working on changing the skill gems a bit.

OK, I abandoned vortex (from the cold dot build posted before) and just stuck with WinterHiko's list of 4 spells. That seems to kind of work. Onward!


Did you allocate every node of the cold damage wheel at the top of the tree? Both branches are perfect for Cold DOT.
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WinterHiko wrote:

Did you allocate every node of the cold damage wheel at the top of the tree? Both branches are perfect for Cold DOT.


Sadly no because I don't remember to read the fine print. Good point there, thanks.
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Graiaule wrote:
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WinterHiko wrote:

Did you allocate every node of the cold damage wheel at the top of the tree? Both branches are perfect for Cold DOT.


Sadly no because I don't remember to read the fine print. Good point there, thanks.


That will probably double or triple your DPS :P
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WinterHiko wrote:
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Graiaule wrote:
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WinterHiko wrote:

Did you allocate every node of the cold damage wheel at the top of the tree? Both branches are perfect for Cold DOT.


Sadly no because I don't remember to read the fine print. Good point there, thanks.


That will probably double or triple your DPS :P


I need defenses more than dps. I did snarf a 5S WI so that's the end of the cold dot. I will say that cold dot levelling is far faster than freezing pulse, and I'll definitely do that the next time. While 5S WI does a lot of damage it is slooooowwww...
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Graiaule wrote:
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RaGe0uS wrote:
Has anyone ever run a Cold Dot build like this one for a league starter?

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3450602

I ran it through POB using the Whispering Ice Build Passives and it's pretty comparable.


That's a nice find! I was looking for something similar. Using whirling blades for movement is an interesting idea.

The initial bottleneck is likely to be getting BBG BGG BBB gear. Might be worthwhile to run a witch first to get two shots at the vendor to start with.

Note: you don't want to run Eldritch Battery and CI at the same time so it might be worth actually following the build today to see if there are other issues as well.


By Act 3 I ended up switching back to Icicle Mines. I didn't feel like I was doing enough dps and it just didn't feel as smooth.
"Updated for 3.24"

"3.24 Leveling trees"
"3.24 Budget version"
"3.23 High End Full Build"

Please make it doubtless. Are all versions 3.24-ready, or not?
(If they are, then replace the "3.23" text with "3.24".)

(I have now 1 opportunity to do a free full tree reset. (Undoable.) If I do now a reset, then you modify the tree (to be 3.24-ready), then.. it will cost me possibly several currency to modify the tree.) (Standard league.)
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Jhssutrx wrote:
"Updated for 3.24"

"3.24 Leveling trees"
"3.24 Budget version"
"3.23 High End Full Build"

Please make it doubtless. Are all versions 3.24-ready, or not?
(If they are, then replace the "3.23" text with "3.24".)

(I have now 1 opportunity to do a free full tree reset. (Undoable.) If I do now a reset, then you modify the tree (to be 3.24-ready), then.. it will cost me possibly several currency to modify the tree.) (Standard league.)


Kelvynn's update posts states that the only changes they made were on the high-end tree, so it should be up-to-date with the Simplex Amulet and Rational Doctrine added.

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