Less than 10,000 people play single player ARPG's. 1.4 million people just tested Lost Ark

Lost ark isn't an ARPG, lost ark got huge interest but by MMO standards also trailed off pretty quickly. I realise it has very flashy combat and its portrayed like an arpg but all of the actual game systems are MMO. You should view it as a superior take on MMO combat, not a superior take on ARPG.

I realise there are plenty of arguments for it being classified as an arpg and i've simplified grossly to get here but games should be put in their biggest tent, not the one that suits a particular point. It isn't like lost epoch, PoE, Grim dawn etc fit anywhere other than arpg.

I mean you could conflate them, but at that point LA becomes a bad MMO and you have to compare to a real one.

They are a long way short of prime time WoW etc.

You know who also does uber dmg with 1 skill?

WHALES!

Whales from Diablo Immortal have Uber damage with 1 skill.

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RuneLuthien wrote:

You know who also does uber dmg with 1 skill?

WHALES!

Whales from Diablo Immortal have Uber damage with 1 skill.

And the point is?

Dude other games make you use more skills because they give you skills, in PoE you build up skills so you will use 1 or 2 and 5 things to support them. Thats the core design element that you would have to change and that would make it NOT PoE anymore.

I've been playing Lost Arc instead of PoE for the last few weeks. It's a fun game. I'm not sure people are playing Lost Arc to make grouping easier. Which seems to be the argument being made in the opening post. I haven't noticed anyone really playing that way in the game.

Grim Dawn was also released a longer time ago and hasn't gotten consistent updates after dlcs came out. And majority of players don't actually keep on playing the same game for hundreds of hours. They go through the story once or maybe twice and that's perfectly fine.

Last Epoch is still in early access and it will surely get a lot of players when it actually comes out. They also said they want to do something like PoE does with leagues but not at the same time as GGG does. Because they also like to play PoE

Remember how Wolcen was supposed to be the PoE killer?
and then it ended up being a fucking shitshow?
Yeah. That's about as good as your ideas would go

Yep not reading that. Chances are I have already said it, only in a way that doesn't make it seem like I want to start a minor war with anyone who responds.

But I am glad Rune is in the appropriate forum at last.

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Foreverhappychan wrote:

But I am glad Rune is in the appropriate forum at last.

Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn in the leaves once in a while.

Well I see now he was literally chased out of his own thread in GD so...we Off Topiccers will be far gentler and receptive to his pointy-eared propositions.


Promise.

Shit. I forgot how closely I'm being watched. Whoops. Time for me to do a Rune I guess.

There is more people playing Lost Ark than POE. This I would agree. I prefer single player games compare with multiplayer games though. People have different taste with video games.

Stressing on what kuciol has mention. POE is inherently unbalanced, it is an intentional game design. The great power disparity I mention before. People who do 100k dps and 100mil dps is unbalanced and can't be fix without drastically changing the game. It is also closely knitted with its RNG loot system and variety build system. POE has a wide variety of builds without diverse usage of the different builds. Change a few numbers and you have a new meta.

It is following Diablo where is it largely a single players game with large cultural on-line gaming community. Always online feature as necessary feature of protection of intellectual property and selling MTX rather than necessary feature of the game itself.

If you are asking me I would prefer an offline single player game.

so much pointless drivel from the op.
His greatest skill? sidestepping arguments.
His point? nowhere to be found.

GGG decides in which direction their game will go. No you won't change their mind, no you won't change the mind of their audience. Because they wouldn't be the audience if that wasn't the case. Your crusade is self-defeating.