Voidstone may not be obtainable due to Boss Difficulty

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MasterTBC wrote:

Now that i think about it

It should be Elder and Shaper who give you the voidstones since they are closer to the searing exarch and eater of worlds in power level

Not Maven and Uber Elder

Also the Maven Invitations should be unlocking the map favourite slots and not Sirus or rare stuff like cortex

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

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MasterTBC wrote:

Now that i think about it

It should be Elder and Shaper who give you the voidstones since they are closer to the searing exarch and eater of worlds in power level

Not Maven and Uber Elder

Also the Maven Invitations should be unlocking the map favourite slots and not Sirus or rare stuff like cortex

Well Uber Elder IS the actual Elder fight, because it's canonically the fight where you actually defeat the Elder. I feel like Sirus kind of just got included "because he was the endgame for a few months" though.

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Esubane wrote:

The only thing I dislike about this is Maven requirement.
You need to do a metric ton of maps with Maven witness to even attempt Maven fight itself, as it usually drops just 1 crescent from each 10-boss invitation.

Screw this, I'm farming Eater maps instead and buy the maven's writ. Losing several dozen maps without Eater influence (aka a crap ton of scarabs and currency!!!) is not worth it when you can just get it done via buying the maven fight invitation.

Before 3.17 Maven would be always on, because it was the only option to choose anyway, so Maven would witness every single fight. But now you have to choose the influence, and choosing Maven does not give the map any juice on its own (where the other 2 options do).

Uber Elder is clunky as well. Takes too long to do it SSF. It's not hard even without very expensive character (my current character is mostly self-crafted at Rog, I spent about 20 ex on 20% AVLS, Bottled Faith and the clusters). So you end up just buying the components too.



They need to allow you to run both Maven and one of the influences at the same time. So you don't lose map juice by collecting bosses for Maven.

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Savage_Tha_Clown wrote:

wow do some on you need ggg to hold your hand while mapping to? i see a bunch of tears of ppl who can't do endgame content crying to make end game easy so sad, i hear new world has a easy mode for ppl like you where the bosses don't attack back and drops the best loot.

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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Savage_Tha_Clown wrote:

wow do some on you need ggg to hold your hand while mapping to? i see a bunch of tears of ppl who can't do endgame content crying to make end game easy so sad, i hear new world has a easy mode for ppl like you where the bosses don't attack back and drops the best loot.

Giving us back the ability to make all maps T14-16 isn't suddenly going to make the game easier all of a sudden.

I don't understand why the highest difficulty bosses have to be mandatory for atlas progression when it simply wasn't the case before. Before 3.17, Maven and Uber Elder were optional bosses you'd want to fight to farm for currency. Nothing would be lost if you chose not to fight them. They were tough which allowed the best geared players to fight them to be the most rewarded. Now they're a required fight if you want to max out your map tiers, regardless if you can afford to be geared up for them or not.

Compared to the previous atlas, the elderslayers were a lot easier to beat even post-quest. Grind notwithstanding, maxing out your atlas with them was a lot easier and far less gear dependent than now.

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Savage_Tha_Clown wrote:

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Pizzarugi wrote:

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Savage_Tha_Clown wrote:

wow do some on you need ggg to hold your hand while mapping to? i see a bunch of tears of ppl who can't do endgame content crying to make end game easy so sad, i hear new world has a easy mode for ppl like you where the bosses don't attack back and drops the best loot.

Giving us back the ability to make all maps T14-16 isn't suddenly going to make the game easier all of a sudden.

I don't understand why the highest difficulty bosses have to be mandatory for atlas progression when it simply wasn't the case before. Before 3.17, Maven and Uber Elder were optional bosses you'd want to fight to farm for currency. Nothing would be lost if you chose not to fight them. They were tough which allowed the best geared players to fight them to be the most rewarded. Now they're a required fight if you want to max out your map tiers, regardless if you can afford to be geared up for them or not.

Compared to the previous atlas, the elderslayers were a lot easier to beat even post-quest. Grind notwithstanding, maxing out your atlas with them was a lot easier and far less gear dependent than now.

then get better builds or learn how to do endgame. most players won't even make it to red maps they quit because the grind is to hard. less makes it to endgame bosses, if you wanna be a end gamer you have to grind and do the content

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Why? Why is this now an accepted norm compared to what we had previously? Why are players now required to fight pinnacle endgame bosses just so they can get back what they previously had in the older atlas?