Voidstone may not be obtainable due to Boss Difficulty

Hey, GGG, thanks for locking content behind a stone wall from simple farmers.
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Pizzarugi wrote:
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Snorkle_uk wrote:
dont worry, play the maps and follow the new eater of worlds/search exarch stuff on the atlas and ull get 2 voidstones from beating them, and theyre a LOT easier than maven and sirus. theyre totally doable, and once u beat them about 50% of ur atlas will be t16 maps.


What about the other half? T14 and T15, right?

If so, only having 2/4 voids isn't too bad.




ive got 3 atm and 3/4 of my atlas is t16 maps, down to where bazaar is, but then that last 1/4 scales down from t15 to t12.

if i unsocket one so i have 2 then my lowest maps are t8 and they scale to t16 by about half way up.

in both cases every step along the chain from the starting nodes is +1 level on the maps. so i guess theres 16 steps along the chain from t1 to t16 on the original atlas, and each voidstone raises the starting points by 4.

1 stone = t4

2 stones = t8

3 stones = t12

4 stones = t16


so they remain +1 level per step along it seems and that makes sense that it brings t16 down from the top to 3/4, 1/2, 1/4 and then the start so all the maps are t16.

01-02-03-04-05-06-07-08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-16

08-09-10-11-12-13-14-15-16-16-16-16-16-16-16-16



i dunno if i actually want all my maps being t16, im ok with running t14 and 15 sometimes so having those in the drops i think helps with sustain.
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Last edited by Snorkle_uk#0761 on Feb 5, 2022, 1:13:32 PM
I thought these new Voidstones are tradable, lol. how the hell should i defeat Maven ? i can never defeat her just like 90% of the playerbase. i got two of these voidstones and can't do the other two, guess i stop playing the league.
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Amir_Ban wrote:
I thought these new Voidstones are tradable, lol. how the hell should i defeat Maven ? i can never defeat her just like 90% of the playerbase. i got two of these voidstones and can't do the other two, guess i stop playing the league.


Can pay someone to do it for you, or farm the maps that are T16. It's not like you NEED every map in the game to be at t16
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Amir_Ban wrote:
I thought these new Voidstones are tradable, lol. how the hell should i defeat Maven ? i can never defeat her just like 90% of the playerbase. i got two of these voidstones and can't do the other two, guess i stop playing the league.


This is the sort of thing I was worried about. As a summoner, I don't necessarily have a problem with fighting Maven or Uber Elder since I play an archetype which tends to be best designed for that content. Dedicated mapping builds, however, get left behind because they're not built to tackle that content.

With the previous atlas, at least they could fight the Elderslayers for 16/32 watchstones which were a lot easier than Maven or Uber Elder, or they can just buy garbage metallic watchstones for very cheap for easy a8. This is no longer possible.
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Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on Feb 17, 2022, 7:58:01 AM
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Pizzarugi wrote:
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Amir_Ban wrote:
I thought these new Voidstones are tradable, lol. how the hell should i defeat Maven ? i can never defeat her just like 90% of the playerbase. i got two of these voidstones and can't do the other two, guess i stop playing the league.


This is the sort of thing I was worried about. As a summoner, I don't necessarily have a problem with fighting Maven or Uber Elder since I play a summoner which tends to be best designed for that content. Dedicated mapping builds, however, get left behind because they're not built to tackle that content.

With the previous atlas, at least they could fight the Elderslayers for 16/32 watchstones which were a lot easier than Maven or Uber Elder, or they can just buy garbage metallic watchstones for very cheap for easy a8. This is no longer possible.


i'm playing as lightning trap which is definitely not a great boss killer, had no problem killing searing Exarch, will fight eater of worlds tonight and working on Maeven next.

I mean if you can't kill the boss plenty of people will be happy to kill the boss for you just for the drops probably if you post.
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Brian9824 wrote:
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Pizzarugi wrote:
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Amir_Ban wrote:
I thought these new Voidstones are tradable, lol. how the hell should i defeat Maven ? i can never defeat her just like 90% of the playerbase. i got two of these voidstones and can't do the other two, guess i stop playing the league.


This is the sort of thing I was worried about. As a summoner, I don't necessarily have a problem with fighting Maven or Uber Elder since I play a summoner which tends to be best designed for that content. Dedicated mapping builds, however, get left behind because they're not built to tackle that content.

With the previous atlas, at least they could fight the Elderslayers for 16/32 watchstones which were a lot easier than Maven or Uber Elder, or they can just buy garbage metallic watchstones for very cheap for easy a8. This is no longer possible.


i'm playing as lightning trap which is definitely not a great boss killer, had no problem killing searing Exarch, will fight eater of worlds tonight and working on Maeven next.

I mean if you can't kill the boss plenty of people will be happy to kill the boss for you just for the drops probably if you post.


Quest Exarch and Eater are okay bosses to fight. They're very easy compared to Maven and Uber Elder, and I'm glad for that.

You didn't need Elderslayer carries previously to max out your atlas, though. If you couldn't defeat the post-quest bosses, you can simply settle on the metallic watchstones. It seems pretty weird that it's now a requirement.
PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.

Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build!

MFers found strength in their Afflictions. They became reliant on them. I am not so foolish.
Last edited by Pizzarugi#6258 on Feb 17, 2022, 8:23:34 AM
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Pizzarugi wrote:

Quest Exarch and Eater are okay bosses to fight. They're very easy compared to Maven and Uber Elder, and I'm glad for that.

You didn't need Elderslayer carries previously to max our your atlas, though. If you couldn't defeat the post-quest bosses, you can simply settle on the metallic watchstones. It seems pretty weird that it's now a requirement.


Guess I really don't see what the big deal is. 2/4 void stones gives you what, 1/2 the maps at t16 give or take? Plenty to run and do, even if you never killed the other 2. Plenty of people are speccing into farming shaper so should be no shortages of people that will kill them for the drops.
If you cannot manage to defeat these bossses, GGG considers you not being worthy to juice up your maps with sextants. Instead you should be happy to just play the low content. Because exclusive unique drops are not enough benefit of killing these bosses it seems.
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Amir_Ban wrote:
I thought these new Voidstones are tradable, lol. how the hell should i defeat Maven ? i can never defeat her just like 90% of the playerbase. i got two of these voidstones and can't do the other two, guess i stop playing the league.



why would you stop playing?

you dont need 4 stones, with 2 stones half your atlas is already t16 maps just like half your atlas was t16 maps when you had max watchstones on the previous atlas.

you were fine playing the game when the highest maps were 2x lvl78 maps (courtyard + palace)? you were fine playing the game when there were a total of 4x t16 maps (shaper guardians) and when there were 5x t16 maps (shaper guardians plus elder orb)? you were fine when you had about 36x t16 maps on the last atlas but now you have what? about 44x t16 maps on your atlas with 2 voidstones suddenly you need to quit playing the game because you dont have 100x t16 maps on your atlas?



most people who have 4 voidstones are not using 4 voidstones. i would never use 4 voidstones, the only people who 'need' them are people doing big juice that want to max out 4 sextants on top of 4 scarabs etc. those people can easily beat maven and uber elder.

for almost everyone else 4 voidstones is terrible, its an awful idea to use 4 of them. 2 is pretty much optimal for the majority of people providing they dont have a bug.
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