Voidstone may not be obtainable due to Boss Difficulty

hi GGG
Quote from 3.17 patch notes, "Voidstones which are obtained by defeating The Uber Elder, The Maven, The Searing Exarch and The Eater of Worlds."

please consider not gating Voidstones behind Uber Elder, The Maven, The Searing Exarch and The Eater of Worlds.
These are very difficult fights which are endgame content bosses.
These will restrict map tiers to some players who have never defeated any of these bosses before as they are too difficult.
The previous league conquerors are still doable as they are not very complicated fights and are able to get the watchstones.
please consider removing the gating behind these endgame bosses.

You will have several T16 without any Voidstone. These stones just make ALL maps T16

Oh I didn't know that. thanks for the reply. Do you know how many maps will be T16 without any voidstone?

Secondly, if players cannot get any voidstone from endgame bosses, meaning sextant will be irrelevant to them. These players will not be able to use sextant at all which will miss out a chunk of the content.

Lastly, one of the convenience which sextant brings is doing reflect maps. If players are not accessible to anti-reflect sextant mod, this would create some problem with some builds which cannot do reflect mods on Corrupted red maps required for Atlas progression.

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tesun wrote:

Oh I didn't know that. thanks for the reply. Do you know how many maps will be T16 without any voidstone?

5-10, you can get the exact value by looking at the reveal video and counting the lines.

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tesun wrote:

Secondly, if players cannot get any voidstone from endgame bosses, meaning sextant will be irrelevant to them. These players will not be able to use sextant at all which will miss out a chunk of the content.

Sextants will be irrelevant to them. However, players will gain way more "content" from atlas passives and the increased accessability/availability of scarabs with more choice.

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tesun wrote:

Lastly, one of the convenience which sextant brings is doing reflect maps. If players are not accessible to anti-reflect sextant mod, this would create some problem with some builds which cannot do reflect mods on Corrupted red maps required for Atlas progression.

They're changing a bunch of sextant stuff that wasn't mentioned in the patch notes (like the removal of nem3/nem4 and the addition of new ones). Maybe that modifier doesn't even exist anymore.

It is save to say that you'll probably lose that specific option but you can still exchange the map with harvest or sell it on trade.

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Sweetflake wrote:

You will have several T16 without any Voidstone. These stones just make ALL maps T16

The point he is making in the old watchstone based you could make all maps T16 without fighting any major endgame boss to unlock them.
Conquerors are farm level difficulty in comparison to Maven or Uber elder and probably the two new tentacle monsters as well.

They went from one extreme to another and obviously it is relatively harder in 3.17 to get them all T16 again.

It seems like another approach to keep players engaged longer with semi-arbitrary new roadblocks, so PoE stays longer relevant on Twitch.

But its their game and lets see how it will be recieved over the course of the new league.

They messed up end game expereicne so bad


From quest watchstone only for a year that force you to play high tier map or otherwise no influenced item drop


To another year of target farm using craftable watchstone but yet again push out player that unable to sustain dps in 4 watchstone map


The new system seems give new player a more fair ground that they can still reach the edge of "end-game" and the front loading of atlas passive skill make them no so left out

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5-10, you can get the exact value by looking at the reveal video and counting the lines.

Less than 10% out of the map pool are T16 without voidstones needed? That's really too little! I wish GGG would increase the number of T16 maps to at least 60% without voidstones.

I think I have to be the only one that really LOVES this change. Progression will be SO much smoother, not having to farm Watchstones, socket them here and there just to farm even more Watchstones. Having access to all tiers of maps from the get-go is, in lack of better words; awesome.

They've turned the NEED of several Watchstones into a WANT for a few Voidstones.

Can only agree the voidstones come too late. It's like that thing they said about some upgrades, by the time you can get them you don't need them. By the time I can kill UElder, I'm usually about done with playing a league. I don't understand the motivation to have map tier upgrade so pinnacle-content gated.

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Aderahl wrote:

Can only agree the voidstones come too late. It's like that thing they said about some upgrades, by the time you can get them you don't need them. By the time I can kill UElder, I'm usually about done with playing a league. I don't understand the motivation to have map tier upgrade so pinnacle-content gated.

I sincerely agree with you.