Youtube sucks the biggest balls

You have a real gift for saying something while actually saying nothing. No real engagement, just repetitive disagreement along with a liberal use of distraction

But I get it - you're not really here to argue, which explains your brief replies. You're just here to state your position and then keep stating it over and over rather than making the case for it. That's also why you toss out baseless accusations, like your pretense that what's being suppressed is only 'conspiracy theories'. None of it is in good faith. It was never meant to be.

You just want to make it clear that you like/dislike something and don't feel the need to justify that - but do feel the need to keep stating it since some people, like me, actually try to engage with you on it. So be it, my mistake.

The majority of people in this thread dislike what YT is doing. You don't. At least in this thread you're outnumbered. Since intellectual engagement is fruitless, the iron fist of majority rule shall dictate that we are right.

YT's practices suck, and you can continue to be the disingenuous conscientious objector that you seem to revel in being. This isn't how discussions ought to be, but if you insist on treating them as you do, then that's all that's left.

Peace,
-Exile009-

The iron fist of several people?

It is not even about blurring, disinformation straight up creates a separate reality. Suppose you don't know me but you hear from the group you associate with that I am a dangerous person who loves hurting a subset of people you are part of or you care about (usually children). You don't bother checking whether this is true. Instead, the image that I am a monster stays with you. Eventually, you might want to take action either because you believe I'd be a threat to you or because you feel righteous. Now apply this to a whole group of people. This might be disinformation at its most extreme but it is also a very real threat.

What is also dangerous is working under the assumption that we all have the necessary levels of functional literacy, digital skills, emotional intelligence, etc. needed to protect ourselves from propaganda and misinformation spread online. We don't. We need this propaganda and misinformation controlled and reduced.

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The_Impeacher wrote:

According to Exile009, disinformation propagandists are allowed to bombard civilized society with dangerous lies, but no one should have a right to be protected from the lies? What about young, impressionable people? No protection? What about if those dangerous lies inspire people to sicken, hurt or kill others? Then what?

The bottom line: There is a MASSIVE operation afoot to blur lines and remove reality. To remove right and wrong all together. Still okay?

No. Not on my watch.

LMAO! According to you linking to a GGG post about the new Project mtxes is disinformation propaganda. L-O-L! xD

This is why I said you're no different from those conspiracy theorists.

Lol "Not on my watch". XDDD There's no great heroic battle you're fighting here bruh, as much as you seem to want to believe that.

You aren't saving the "young, impressionable people" of "civilized society" (talk about condescending!) dude, you're just pissing off ordinary people. This is sounding like a take straight out of Don Quixote...

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Johny_Snow wrote:

It is not even about blurring, disinformation straight up creates a separate reality.

Ironically the biggest separate reality in this thread are from you guys, who seem to want to imagine it being about some titanic struggle between good and evil, being waged on your behalf by a giant corporation lol! Yeah, those Project mtxes were a real threat to world peace lmao.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

You don't bother checking whether this is true. Instead, the image that I am a monster stays with you.

Perfect encapsulation of precisely what you both are doing here.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

What is also dangerous is working under the assumption that we all have the necessary levels of functional literacy, digital skills, emotional intelligence, etc. needed to protect ourselves from propaganda and misinformation spread online. We don't. We need this propaganda and misinformation controlled and reduced.

What's hilarious, but also sad, about this is how you don't even realize how elitist and condescending you're being. You're literally infantilizing billions of people, children and adults both, in favor of thinking you know better. Not to mention granting a megacorporation your full trust and allegiance.

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Ironically the biggest separate reality in this thread are from you guys, who seem to want to imagine it being about some titanic struggle between good and evil, being waged on your behalf by a giant corporation lol! Yeah, those Project mtxes were a real threat to world peace lmao.

Apparently, you are unaware of how much misinformation is being spread through social networks and media like YouTube. If you are not aware of the problem why are you trying to pretend you understand it?

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What's hilarious, but also sad, about this is how you don't even realize how elitist and condescending you're being. You're literally infantilizing billions of people, children and adults both, in favor of thinking you know better. Not to mention granting a megacorporation your full trust and allegiance.

The truth is not something you choose to believe in. The truth are the facts. I don't consider myself condescending in saying that millions of people do not have the necessary skills to sift through information online and find the facts. This conclusion comes from numerous researches done by people smarter than me. You are not disagreeing with me, you are disagreeing with every single one of them.

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Raycheetah wrote:

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Exile009 wrote:

Ironically it's actually made backing up one's claims with legitimate proof harder, since it's much harder to link to sources now as YT now hates all urls.

Including their own; I can no longer link YouTube videos on YouTube! =@[.]@=

This is a buff - I mean, a good thing. Someone must make the controversies go away. I'm feeling safer already!

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Ironically the biggest separate reality in this thread are from you guys, who seem to want to imagine it being about some titanic struggle between good and evil, being waged on your behalf by a giant corporation lol! Yeah, those Project mtxes were a real threat to world peace lmao.

Apparently, you are unaware of how much misinformation is being spread through social networks and media like YouTube. If you are not aware of the problem why are you trying to pretend you understand it?

Bruh, you seem to be unaware of what even just this thread is talking about, so what you think you're aware of about the wider world is even more suspect. Your attempts to skew this discussion in favor of your grand infowar thesis aren't going anywhere. Also, this is rich coming from someone sneaky enough to remove my name from the quote so I wouldn't get a notification (right back at you btw!). For someone in favor of truth, you sure have a duplicitous way of respecting it. But I suppose I shouldn't expect different from someone who supports trigger-happy corporate censorship as the 'solution' to the infowars.

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What's hilarious, but also sad, about this is how you don't even realize how elitist and condescending you're being. You're literally infantilizing billions of people, children and adults both, in favor of thinking you know better. Not to mention granting a megacorporation your full trust and allegiance.

The truth is not something you choose to believe in. The truth are the facts. I don't consider myself condescending in saying that millions of people do not have the necessary skills to sift through information online and find the facts. This conclusion comes from numerous researches done by people smarter than me. You are not disagreeing with me, you are disagreeing with every single one of them.

Uh huh. For someone so dedicated to 'facts', you seem rather reticent to back them up. Probably cos you subscribe to the same self-serving ethos that says you can call your opinions 'facts' and get away with it. And also partly because backing up said 'facts' would require you to actually do some work i.e. research, to find the evidence. But no, I'm not gonna let you go so easy.

So go on, provide the evidence. And not some random paper on misinformation EXISTING mind, but specifically back up your claim that people are incapable online and need censorship like YT's to protect them, preferably also that YT's censorship has actually achieved what you believe it has.

Or don't, and keep pretending your opinion is a 'fact'. A condescending one.

And just to bring it up to this page, a reminder that YT even censored this -

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Well, you got your wish - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3213742

in response to comments under the Project Essence Drain YT video.

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Your attempts to skew this discussion in favor of your grand infowar thesis aren't going anywhere.

The thread is about automatic algorithms that remove content and whether they are necessary, right? I say they do more good than harm and should stay. The automatic defenses aren't going to be perfect but they are definitely a step in the right direction.

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Uh huh. For someone so dedicated to 'facts', you seem rather reticent to back them up. Probably cos you subscribe to the same self-serving ethos that says you can call your opinions 'facts' and get away with it. And also partly because backing up said 'facts' would require you to actually do some work i.e. research, to find the evidence. But no, I'm not gonna let you go so easy.

Google digital literacy and see how many people are digitally literate and how many aren't. Its not hard. As with any other "literacy" you learn it. You can't immediately go to Facebook after you purchase your first phone and manage to find your way through the piles of fake news.

People seem to think misinformation only comes from one side LMAO