So if you quit PoE...

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Gescom wrote:

Cake, this caricature you're playing is highly amusing. What are your inspirations? Andy Kaufman?

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CAKE wrote:

I've applied for diablo 3 testing group in 2001 and it had version completely different compared to current one. So ofcourse we do not count pre-alpha prototypes. If we did d3 would be like 15 years older than poe.

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CAKE wrote:

If i did, you would still have no argument because this league had and has harvest untouched and that will be the case for next month.

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CAKE wrote:

What i will say is that d3 is so godly that it does not even need crafting. Owning poe hard.

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Nomancs wrote:

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CAKE wrote:

I've applied for diablo 3 testing group in 2001 and it had version completely different compared to current one. So ofcourse we do not count pre-alpha prototypes. If we did d3 would be like 15 years older than poe.

So following your logic, we will count release date then Diablo 2 Refunded as 2021 -_- you say that early alpha is same thing as pre-release open beta are same things - cool, but don't try to make an argument skipping logic and contradicting your previous posts.

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CAKE wrote:

If i did, you would still have no argument because this league had and has harvest untouched and that will be the case for next month.

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CAKE wrote:

What i will say is that d3 is so godly that it does not even need crafting. Owning poe hard.

Sure... and I bet I will see you playing PoE next league.

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Nomancs wrote:

This is a question to people who want to quit PoE because harvest nerfs - what ARPG will you pick, and what better crafting system does it have? I'm very curious about people wanting to quit PoE for Diablo 2 Refunded, how great crafting is there?

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Nomancs wrote:

Since it was burried by a guy jumping from PoE to Diablo 3, does last Epoch have multiplayer and seasons, or it is a one run game like Grim Easy Dawn and when you've finished campaign then you're done, can delete the game? Or will it end like Wolcen that is barely played?

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Tsokushin wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

This is a question to people who want to quit PoE because harvest nerfs - what ARPG will you pick, and what better crafting system does it have? I'm very curious about people wanting to quit PoE for Diablo 2 Refunded, how great crafting is there?

The mistake you ultimately make is you underestimate how easy it is to quit games these days. This isn't 2001-2009 where there's very few available options, there's more video games now than people have lifetimes to play them.

So, I ask, what makes you think people will just look for another ARPG and not just another genre entirely?

Factorio, Satisfactory, Risk of Rain 2, Heroes of the Storm, RDR2, heck a PS2 emulator lets me get into some old school couch co-op with my brother. Not even counting the new ones coming like Back 4 Blood and Chivalry 2 to fill the niches where Left 4 Dead 2 and Chivalry 1 filled my times from 2010-2014.

It's limited thinking that ARPG's are the end all be all of entertainment.

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Nomancs wrote:

Since it was burried by a guy jumping from PoE to Diablo 3, does last Epoch have multiplayer and seasons, or it is a one run game like Grim Easy Dawn and when you've finished campaign then you're done, can delete the game? Or will it end like Wolcen that is barely played?

Grim easy dawn? As opposed to Path of Meta? And I'm actually picking up Last Epoch. Developers seem to have a track history of delivering on what they promised, and multiplayer is right on that list.

I think your horizons are quite limited here and your efforts are misplaced. Perhaps you think because you've grinded more here in this game that it makes you better than other people.

Or, perhaps life has been so hard on you that you're no longer able to recognize games that only aim to be a pleasant experience. That good times and fun can simply be given to you, that you do not have to be so starved as to ravenously take them or enjoin yourself to entertainment that require this of you.

Within the next few weeks, I quit the game and the forums for good, so I get to be a bit more of myself here.

PoE is a game that's inherently vain. There's no sense of completeness here. Even your very "achievements" in a temp league shall mean absolutely nothing in 3 months. And for this, your very utmost efforts are too vanity. There's not even a sense of art. Whereas in other games you may be able to say "I made this meaningful choice in the story", or "I was part of this guild and they were my friends", or "The game was able to elicit these thoughts/emotions", all of that is absent here.

All there is here is that vain grind. Indeed, GGG was very apt in naming the locations "The Absence of Value and Meaning" and "The Absence of Mercy and Empathy".

As time goes forward, we all end up in the same place the grandfather of our grandfathers lay. Which is why I've determined to stick only with the good parts.

So, here it is. You've been grinding to hear these words and now you'll see em, because surely GGG will never say it. You, Nomancs, are indeed amazing. Your 40/40 achievement indeed puts you in the rarefied atmosphere, the top of the top.

Indeed, Grim Dawn is too easy for thee and the current solo player experience of Last Epoch is no comparison to your discerning taste. You, for sure, are king of this empire of dust.

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Tsokushin wrote:

That good times and fun can simply be given to you, that you do not have to be so starved as to ravenously take them or enjoin yourself to entertainment that require this of you.

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Tsokushin wrote:

Within the next few weeks, I quit the game and the forums for good, so I get to be a bit more of myself here.

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Tsokushin wrote:

Your 40/40 achievement indeed puts you in the rarefied atmosphere, the top of the top.

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Nomancs wrote:

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EKTELESTES wrote:

The best crafting system I've seen in an isometric arpg has to be Last Epoch's, and it's still work in progress.

What crafting does it have?

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Nomancs wrote:

I'm sorry that Path of Exile wasn't easy for you and will give rewards for free after item editor nerf, But I'm sure you will find it somewhere.

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I am sure I will see you around next league or next expansion - people who really quit don't make posts about it.

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Thanks for all your insults covered with pseudo-psychoanalysis.

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gandhar0 wrote:

Get (white) item base + crafting mats.

Each item has 4 affixes you can add. 2 prefixes + 2 suffixes.
You can add any affix you want as long there are enough materials till it bricks.
In LE bricking means fracture which literally trashes the item like a Vaal Orb.

So in a sense its similar like benchcrafting, with the exception you could edit any white item base from the get go to have all stats you need, in a true item editor way.

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Tsokushin wrote:

You misunderstand. Ease has nothing to do with it. Rather, it was enjoyable for a time with Harvest. Because, more often than not, I play ARPG's like I would a simple RPG, in that I approach it with a particular theme.

But it also highlights a troubling aspect here for you, man. To you, the item is the reward and not the means to the end of having fun.

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Tsokushin wrote:

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I am sure I will see you around next league or next expansion - people who really quit don't make posts about it.

You misunderstand again. Take the people who threatened to leave a game like WoW after unpopular changes took place. They actually did leave, and then Blizzard had to scramble to implement changes people actually wanted. The entire "you think you do but you don't" situation. You can even search my post history, there's entire periods of silence where I wasn't playing. In fact, the only reason I came back for this game in Harvest was because a friend asked me to.

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Tsokushin wrote:

Again, people underestimate how easy it is to quit a game. Furthermore, I understand this one truth. There's plenty of hard things to strive for in real life, but those things actually have meaning. I don't have a need to strive for anything here, in recreation.

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Tsokushin wrote:

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Thanks for all your insults covered with pseudo-psychoanalysis.

Once again, you misunderstand. I meant every compliment. It's just a shame that GGG has designed this game to be of utmost vanity. And it's a shame that this is the game you've chosen to cling to.