Harvest not spawning

So guys, I play SSF and I hit this problem with harvest spawning extremely rarely in Haewark Hamlet already TWICE this league.

The first time I noticed the problem long time ago, when I put all points in HH and started farming the region. I didn't do any statistics, it just felt wrong, way worse than other regions. Then I found this topic, some people suspecting that a chance to spawn masters is messing with harvest. So I removed Focussed Investigation (Jun) and took 2 essence notables. Immediately after I did that, harvest started to appear, a lot of them! And not just harvests, other mechanics too, masters, legion, metamorphs, whatnot, making Haewark Hamelt maps feel noticably richer.

The second time was a few days ago, I crafted 2 Haewark Hamlet platinum watchstones with good harvest mods, even though I read on this topic that they may be bugged. But I wanted to try anyway. So I played 30-40 maps and had just one harvest during that time. I know it's a small sample, but I lost patience with that experiment so I removed them, and in next 5 maps I got two! It may be luck ofc, but during the time I farmed HH with those new watchstones, all the maps I played felt "emptier", with less other mechanics spawning, just like it happened when HH had 10% chance for Jun.

Those are two separate issues, both causing the same problem with harvest, but also with everything else. Something is definitely fishy. It's mind-boggling there's no word from GGG about the issue, more than a month into the league.


EDIT: Forgot to mention, I don't use Zana Uncharted Realms notables! That's a third possible cause of harvest issues I know of, so I didn't even try playing with them. Orbs of Unmaking are precious in SSF.

Can someone who spawns harvest post a screenshot of fully opened trees to try to replicate them?

right now i respect all harvest nodes in lex proxima and 2 major nodes in hamlet, using no specifc watchstones and no harvest spawn in days.

i think most of the nodes in the trees are quite an obvious pick, maybe i will not cost much to try to replicate the tree

Yeah this is borked. Third map non-Haewark, I get a harvest. Don't even know how many Haewark's (Cemetary mostly) I've ran without getting one, aside from Oshabi. Fourth map in Valdo's I run and I get a Harvest.

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_mason_ wrote:

Can someone who spawns harvest post a screenshot of fully opened trees to try to replicate them?

Here is my setup, with closed and open trees:

https://i.imgur.com/77uacHM.png
https://i.imgur.com/4KvUupN.png

Mind you, I play SSF and I don't know what's meta in trade. Also, I don't think other regions and their passives/watchstones cause problems with harvest in Haewark Hamlet, *except* global Zana passives in Uncharted Realms. I have two platinum Valdo's watchstones and I still got 3 harvests in Haewark Hamlet from my last 10 maps, after I removed craftable watchstones from it. Also make sure you remove Focussed Investigation.

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Dex8172 wrote:

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_mason_ wrote:

Can someone who spawns harvest post a screenshot of fully opened trees to try to replicate them?

Here is my setup, with closed and open trees:

https://i.imgur.com/77uacHM.png
https://i.imgur.com/4KvUupN.png

Mind you, I play SSF and I don't know what's meta in trade. Also, I don't think other regions and their passives/watchstones cause problems with harvest in Haewark Hamlet, *except* global Zana passives in Uncharted Realms. I have two platinum Valdo's watchstones and I still got 3 harvests in Haewark Hamlet from my last 10 maps, after I removed craftable watchstones from it. Also make sure you remove Focussed Investigation.

Thanks, that's very kind.

A couple of questions before trying your trees:

1) Maybe its a silly question, but why don't you socket all the watchstones with normal watchstones, at least in hamlet? I thought it's better to try to get the maps for harvest
2) where do you farm harvest, in lex proxima or hamlet?

it costs me 12 regrets point this try

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_mason_ wrote:

1) Maybe its a silly question, but why don't you socket all the watchstones with normal watchstones, at least in hamlet?

Since I play SSF and have to farm everything myself, usually I have all watchstones socketed, 10 different T14+ maps per region, farming both Sirus and Maven, mostly in Haewark Hamlet. But sometimes I want to speed farm something, some masters, divination cards, etc. So that particular setup is for T11 Lair (Jun/Harbingers) and T12 Atol (harvests). By taking out some watchstones in these regions I get much more of those maps then I'd get with AL8.

In Valdo's Rest I have 2 platinum watchstones socketed (one Auspicious), but I didn't notice any adverse effects on HH harvest farming.

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_mason_ wrote:

2) where do you farm harvest, in lex proxima or hamlet?

Haewark Hamlet is way better. As you can see, I didn't even take Bountiful Harvest and Heart of the Grove in Lex Proxima. It's not like I care for harvest exp, and getting Oshabi is bad. I actually plan to remove it completely and take all 3 breach nodes there. But I don't have enough Orbs of Unmaking.

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_mason_ wrote:

it costs me 12 regrets point this try

Why 12? Two for removing Jun from HH, and 2-6 in Uncharted Realms to remove Master of the Atlas, depending on how many points you have there. As I wrote above, I didn't test it myself, but other people say it also causes problems with harvest.

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Dex8172 wrote:

Why 12? Two for removing Jun from HH, and 2-6 in Uncharted Realms to remove Master of the Atlas, depending on how many points you have there. As I wrote above, I didn't test it myself, but other people say it also causes problems with harvest.

Because i've already deallocated some points and it dosen't spawn anyway:

https://imgur.com/a/pbwTJC5

i don't have master, i don't know sirus mechanics yet

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_mason_ wrote:

Because i've already deallocated some points and it doesn't spawn anyway

I really don't know. You don't have any of the causes people described here, neither craftable watchstones, neither a chance to get additional Jun/Zana missions in Haewark Hamlet. Maybe there's something else I'm not aware of. Or maybe you just run into an unlucky streak.

Nature's Favour and Wild Fruit are both great notables, making HH the best region to farm harvest, and I've had no problems with them.

I feel like i'm going crazy with this, how can I consistently get harvest spawns every 5-10 maps. Then you just randomly for no reason go 50 or so maps with no spawns only doing fully juiced haewalk maps, this has happened to me multiple times now. Sometimes the watchstone shuffle fixes it, but today nothing is fixing it. Not a single natural harvest all day and last night :(

PLZ fix this GGG

ok, that's my experience

i've see some harvast from what i've done

1) respect 2 delium points in lex ejoris
2) use all except nemesis harvest map's mods
3) i accidently left out 1 watchstones from a region

Right now i'm feeling in a normal situation.
Before that, days without an harvest, right now i can have 1 every ~5 maps