⛵☁️[3.25] The Arachnophobia Allstars| Chaos Guardian CI|The dirty Scorpion-tail|Herald of Agony 150M+

I am curious to see how using spiders is compared to trying to make x2 +1 wand. The old build just relied on the making Agony level 29 and having the 60 stacks. I AM also curious to see how Brutality Support Now supports any skill that deals damage (previously required the skill to Hit an enemy). Unless still does no chaos and how Cruelty Support gem works now and better then DeathMark.

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Sazzbot wrote:

Thank you for explaining and extra info

Yeeh, for me personally are the discussions and questions very interesting also. Thank you too.

I wish you large mobs and fine drops!

I'm interested in the build, but trying to read the guide gave me multiple strokes.
Is there a similar build guide anywhere showing ONE of the multiple variations and cut down to about 5% of the text of this guide? Without the cringy names and all the rambling if at all possible, meaning, just a proper guide.

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I'm interested in the build, but trying to read the guide gave me multiple strokes.
Is there a similar build guide anywhere showing ONE of the multiple variations and cut down to about 5% of the text of this guide? Without the cringy names and all the rambling if at all possible, meaning, just a proper guide.

If you look at the 3.10 Mana Guardian with Agony post under templar, its the same idea and set up, but you use the unique dagger Arakaali's Fang to summoner spiders. Mana guardian agony used 4 specter's and HOAg. So go find the 3.10 Agony post by hitmanb to get an understanding then come back here and reread some stuff and you will get an idea. Chromino also states in the beginning he has poor English and everything is set up not right lol

another thing is go on poe ninja and look up people who played it last league.

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Rodneyking wrote:

I am curious to see how using spiders is compared to trying to make x2 +1 wand. The old build just relied on the making Agony level 29 and having the 60 stacks. I AM also curious to see how Brutality Support Now supports any skill that deals damage (previously required the skill to Hit an enemy). Unless still does no chaos and how Cruelty Support gem works now and better then DeathMark.

Yes, will get very interesting to try out.
But HoA has 50 % physical damage to chaos. It would only work with triad grips? Or is the buff counted in before damageconversion?
I have to check next days, hehe.

The higher gemlevels are top damage. But you loose the defences and substain of iron reflexes as a downside and damageuptime while mapping of the spiders.
When you don't need the defences, the older build offers max geared a bit more damage. This build can be scaled up also for full damage of 21 mill. with hatred on an aul's uprising, generosity and cold iron point dagger etc. , but you need best skills ingame, it's getting a bit glascannonstyle.

I played Vatinas version last league, and I plan to go this one this league HC trade.
Which version of the POB do you recommend for me to go for?

and thanks very much for the guide

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BlightBoy17 wrote:

I played Vatinas version last league, and I plan to go this one this league HC trade.
Which version of the POB do you recommend for me to go for?

and thanks very much for the guide

Hey Blightboy,

yes, the build got longer and I added for different goals and styles different pob's with only small differences like medium clusters, gloves and ring.

In the spoiler "gear (Panorama/ Overview) is the section to choose the one you prefer:

This build shows 4 paths of easy scaleable gear-set-ups.

On the same fundament they balance defences, offensives, damage and quality of life like movementspeed or ailments- immunities a bit different:

1.) The Definitive Defensive Tank Edition

is recommended overall for level 100 in all content. 5 mill. shaper-damage is more than enough for all content and you need not more:

https://pastebin.com/zjFwhV89

2.) Boss-Hunter Level 100 Edition
Sniper's Mark, 55 Virulences, 6.1 mill shaper-damage:

https://pastebin.com/wqGFcFt1

3.) The Offensive Edition 55, 8 mill. damage,

is well balanced too, but more difficult for reaching level 100 and for some dangerous content you need experiences in poe with this gear to do it deathless. You miss some not mandatory defensive skills:

https://pastebin.com/wqGFcFt1

was fitting fine for me for all levels until 98. But sometimes you get more ranged offscreen damage and need fast reactions in some situations and some bosses.

4.) The Highway to damage 60 with 21 mill. shaper-damage

in the spoiler "Make hatred not grace" is only a full damage build. It's not recommended for levelling because it also results in a bit glascannonstyle playing:

https://pastebin.com/ndSjXEBB

You can choose your Edition for your experiences in poe, your prefered individualized playstyle and for your own personal goals.

I would advice in Hardcore to
1) for tankyness

I am not experienced in Hardcore, but 1) is most tanky! So much more defences with added frostwall in cws against offscreen ranged damage for delve, heist, mapping.

Don't take in hc 4) of course!

Take a look in the spoiler "boss-hunting", there is another spoiler "Dangerous Bosses in Endgame" with the last remaining dangerous degen/ dot types bosses we have only time of need, sulphur flask and vaal discipline and small regeneration against.

When you have Tipps in hc for this build, I am very interested to hear your experiences! I think it's the most tanky build I ever played and has much layers of defences. I only died of my own faults and maven and ueber-atziri are very tough.

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loonypt wrote:

I'm interested in the build, but trying to read the guide gave me multiple strokes.
Is there a similar build guide anywhere showing ONE of the multiple variations and cut down to about 5% of the text of this guide? Without the cringy names and all the rambling if at all possible, meaning, just a proper guide.

Hi loonypt,


yes, it is a long build with a lot of variants. Complex game - complex build.
My english is not native, so there will be probably a lot misunderstandings too.

Take only the first half of the build from "gear" until "Ascendancy, Bandits, Pantheon" when you want, everything further are only alternatives and explanations. You need the the second half only when you want to read about mechanics or variety your playstyle in poe for skills and gear.

Can you use a cyclone setup instead of ball lightning to poison?

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Chromino wrote:

Hey Blightboy,

yes, the build got longer and I added for different goals and styles different pob's with only small differences like medium clusters, gloves and ring.

1.) The Definitive Defensive Tank Edition

is recommended overall for level 100 in all content. 5 mill. shaper-damage is more than enough for all content and you need not more:



3.) The Offensive Edition 55, 8 mill. damage,

is well balanced too, but more difficult for reaching level 100 and for some dangerous content you need experiences in poe with this gear to do it deathless. You miss some not mandatory defensive skills:

https://pastebin.com/wqGFcFt1

was fitting fine for me for all levels until 98. But sometimes you get more ranged offscreen damage and need fast reactions in some situations and some bosses.

I would advice in Hardcore to
1) for tankyness

I am not experienced in Hardcore, but 1) is most tanky! So much more defences with added frostwall in cws against offscreen ranged damage for delve, heist, mapping.

Don't take in hc 4) of course!

Take a look in the spoiler "boss-hunting", there is another spoiler "Dangerous Bosses in Endgame" with the last remaining dangerous degen/ dot types bosses we have only time of need, sulphur flask and vaal discipline and small regeneration against.

When you have Tipps in hc for this build, I am very interested to hear your experiences! I think it's the most tanky build I ever played and has much layers of defences. I only died of my own faults and maven and ueber-atziri are very tough.

Thanks very much again

I've read some of the guide and I picked the first POB link, I just wanted to make sure its the one you recommend.
While I don't plan to hit level 100, I still plan to finish as much content as possible as long as I am alive!

Last league I died to Twisted Distant Memory Synthesis Boss Map, the degen or dot killed and I didn't do the boss before so I was clueless mechanic wise, I thought I would be able to skip some of the mechanic but my damage wasn't good enough and I wanted to force it which ended on my regretable death.

Yet again this League I want to raise the spiders with their new friend, scorpion

Thanks for explaining what each tree gives as I didn't see that in the post, its so helpful to know that, now I know that once I am confident in X content I can switch in future to the 8m build.



I will finish reading the build today while waiting for the league!

And after all I will need to farm for the dagger to be able to start!