0.9.9 Information

I could care less about a wipe too. Just my 2 cents. This next patch sounds great looking forward to the monster changes.

A Char wipe would be helpful due to the incoming changes.

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Struyk wrote:

Because the whole economy and ladder is ruined.

The avalanche of "wipe" calls seems like a side-effect of D2's broken economy and bandaid ladder resets. Are you saying that GGG have failed at creating a working economy?

At Open Beta/release GGG will no longer have the luxury of legacy migrations/wipes when they add new content, so they are trying to avoid wipes during CB, as they should.

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RinTheToon wrote:

Also, I'm curious, wouldn't something as major as the removal of Avatar of Fire and the required skill tree reset be something the first post highlights and not as an afterthought when someone asked about it? Not sure if Chris is serious about the removal of AoF in this upcoming patch.

He just threw together a quick preview of 0.9.9, it's unsurprising he overlooked a couple things.

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Struyk wrote:

Can we get patch notes already so I can make a new build :)

We don't even have patch notes on alpha yet... The devs are working hard!

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RinTheToon wrote:

Not all of us have all day every day to play/test. I just made it to lvl 62 since the last wipe(move to legacy). There is no reason to wipe chars every few weeks. At most, a skill tree reset is needed.

I disagree. With changes that affect the actual progression of characters (like the weapon scaling and monster AI), it's essential to see how different builds handle all the content, not just the 50+ areas.

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RinTheToon wrote:

Also, I'm curious, wouldn't something as major as the removal of Avatar of Fire and the required skill tree reset be something the first post highlights and not as an afterthought when someone asked about it? Not sure if Chris is serious about the removal of AoF in this upcoming patch.

It's definitely gone from the tree in 0.9.9. Chris just gave a brief overview of some of the major changes; these are nowhere near everything that will be in the patch notes. The official patch notes are sure to mention the passive reset.

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unsane wrote:

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Struyk wrote:

Because the whole economy and ladder is ruined.

The avalanche of "wipe" calls seems like a side-effect of D2's broken economy and bandaid ladder resets. Are you saying that GGG have failed at creating a working economy?

GGG failed hard on the economy, just because they allowed people like me with 200k dps to farm chaos with 300% mf in 6 man leeching parties AMD claim all the loot.

The ladder is most important imo, everyone in top 10 abused the 5 alts system giving unfair advantage to people with only 1 key.

Love what I am hearing so far! Keep up the good work.

My vote: wipe/legacy migration

Id definitely miss my character and gear but a wipe needs to happen.

Good bye 210%ipd maraketh, we had some great times!

My dagger ranger was such a hard grind I doubt I will make another until open beta; my staff templar wasn't going to use AoF anyways, so I don't care that it's gone. I am not in the right mental state to deal with starting from scratch again, but it needs to be done so the economy can be stabilized before OB. I hope you number crunchers can figure out any other possible skill exploits before then as well.

Will we see any real bug fixes in 9.9? Loading screen fix? Desync fix? These bugs have been around for quite some time and are still with us... when can we expect some bug fixes?

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darkjoy wrote:

Will we see any real bug fixes in 9.9? Loading screen fix? Desync fix? These bugs have been around for quite some time and are still with us... when can we expect some bug fixes?

These aren't 'bugs'. They're issues that come with the server/client architecture that PoE uses. As such, they can never be 'fixed'. They can only be mitigated and smoothed out (hopefully to the point that the player no longer notices them).

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Struyk wrote:

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unsane wrote:

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Struyk wrote:

Because the whole economy and ladder is ruined.

The avalanche of "wipe" calls seems like a side-effect of D2's broken economy and bandaid ladder resets. Are you saying that GGG have failed at creating a working economy?

GGG failed hard on the economy, just because they allowed people like me with 200k dps to farm chaos with 300% mf in 6 man leeching parties AMD claim all the loot.

The ladder is most important imo, everyone in top 10 abused the 5 alts system giving unfair advantage to people with only 1 key.

You're pointing out some serious individual problems with the game, but to then jump to "GGG failed with the economy" is a bit of a stretch.

Also, economy criticisms are amusing coming from a guy who openly boasts in chat that he will have farm bots running shortly after open beta goes live.