[3.21] Aegis Incinerate Elementalist - Tank with over 10mil Shaper DPS!

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MrCinos wrote:

Also, did another impulse purchase:

that cost me 8 divs (all I had on me) so I guess I am saving up for Malediction jewels now. After that I will finally upgrade from my 40c (excluding eldritch currency rolls) gauntlets and then go for empower lv 4 and awakened elemental focus.

nice ring!! that will be great with Malediction.


May I ask if you are using any specific farming strategy for currency?

I got to 97 and decided to go for Asenath as I still plan to continue farming T16 corrupted maps quite a bit, for now I'm avoiding only reduced block and cannot regenerate ofc. Still doing -max res maps, unless it has like 2 more mods that add elemental damage to monsters too.

Got these gloves where I put my 3 auras:



and damn, I thought I was clearing packs pretty fast but no, compared to runs with Asenath that was nothing lol. I know I've uploaded quite a few of my runs, but here's a small clip to show how good Asenath looks for clear on my character:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOL0DjUmEag

I got a bit lost there, but still. Either way that change was so worth it at the current stage I'm at, immediately made me want to play and develop the character even more - cannot overstate the QoL. Obviously, I had to add whispers of doom anointment so I could use it though. As well as fish for some cheap Master of Fire Megalomaniac - unexpectedly Mindfulness came as a nice bonus and literally doubled my mana regen, now I don't need to make 1s stopgaps when I want to proc my auto-triggers second time.

Kinda funny how I've only two rares on me now - one ring and amulet, both of which don't give me any ele res, amu even goes minus into cold res. That's where Taste of Hate flask came as a rescue and overall I'm so glad I went into Purity of Elements as I can run somewhat crazy setup like this without much worries, otherwise I wouldn't even think about such options. Thanks AndyLovesHisBge again for sharing that!

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

May I ask if you are using any specific farming strategy for currency?

I'm just going full abyss (scarabs+sextants+all atlas nodes except for Votive Hoard) and Eater altars, dumping all the jewels in different stashes of various pricing without price checking them unless I spot something really good on the fly. It also helps that you get really good exp from abyss with the scarabs. Still have like ~500 flasks in stashes that I alteration daily and then hope people buy the random results, tedious, but it adds up lol.

EDIT3: Decided to finally do master missions, starting from Alva. Here's my Atlas tree for reference: https://imgur.com/a/6DbOPjU (edited 3 times)

Gonna swap Alva stuff to Jun after I'm done with the first.

Money tips for my incinerate bros,

1. Apex of sacrifice temple boss has a chance to drop ultimatum boss map piece, which goes for like 1.5 div at the least, the drop rate seems not too bad either, got 2 from like 9 temples, I could be lucky tho.

2. The lab node in atlas passive tree has a chance to spawn improved trials in maps which has a chance to give gifts to the goddess, goes for like 1.2 div. Got 2 from like 5 trials. Other types of offering go for at least 15c which ain't too bad either.

3. Chests in uber lab has a chance to give grand spectrum jewels, the maximum life one goes for like 5 div and minimum frenzy goes for like 15 div. Also, prepare high level es base (necro or hubris) for SST enchant, which goes for like 1 div each.

4. Spam sorrow essence on ilvl85 shaper apex rapier to get cold pen + extra phys as cold for SST stat stick. If you get global crit or ele pen with open suffix for double damage, that could go for at least 1 div.

5. Kalandra map can be profitable if you can get reflection of paradise (60c) or kalandra (75c) at any difficulty.

I didn't have time to play much this league due to work, so I couldn't no life farming like I always did. These gamble based farming seems like fun to me and didn't require much killing either, just running around.

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MrCinos wrote:

Can you share the PoB for the inquisitor version? I'd like to see where's that DPS is coming from.

https://pobb.in/lD2Lytk_MVK4

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

Please note that EHP is a very late end game number after LOTS of investment.

Also while EHP is very important, it is not everything. One of the big reasons that Inquisitor will feel significantly tankier, even with a smaller EHP, is the games damage to the players has evolved in recent leagues.

There are currently SIGNIFIANT amounts of ground degen in many different forms. DOT is the great enemy of the Elementalist, even with its high EHP. The Inquisitor is probably the best class in the game at mitigating the DOT from the ground degen effects.

That makes a lot of sense. I guess the always having concentrated ground all the time helps a ton with that degen.

Tell me about them degen ground spots though, been playing a zoomy VG build so far and have to really be paying attention to them xD

I appreciate all of the replies and infos! Maybe the inquis version will make a return in all of its glory some day.

I'd like to say the only degens that were an issue was cold damage one and aegis+taste of hate make it somewhat comfortable, but then again even though I'm kinda stationary I'm also not via bodyswaps, so I rarely ever stay in any of the degens.

Also, got Malediction jewels (~15 div) and damn, together with ele weakness ring got +1m dps up to 4.3-4.6m depending if I can kill something for temporary boost and/or -570k without vaal haste, standard boss not pinnacle though. Literally the same boost I get from pain attunement belt atm. The price was justified, considering I get a bit of survivability (+60k eHP in PoB) as well *and* slightly better Temporal Chain curse effect too - pretty fun to run around with 3 curses now. If I swap awakened cwc+bodyswap to two damaging gems I get ~7m dps not that I do it anymore.

It's also kinda crazy how my effective HP is 585000 (466k without Molten Shell) for some reason, maybe something inflates it wrongly: https://pobb.in/0xkHJ1rTs9qY

Now it's either time to work on a 2nd Large Cluster or finally better gems in the main 6-link to boost DPS even further.

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MrCinos wrote:

It's also kinda crazy how my effective HP is 585000 (466k without Molten Shell) for some reason, maybe something inflates it wrongly: https://pobb.in/0xkHJ1rTs9qY

Here are some comments

1) Don't forget to set your Pantheon. That will likely increase your EHP, depending on what you use.

2) You have "enemies covered in ash" enabled but I don't see Infernal Cry. Are you using a different method to get ash?

3) In the Config panel, in the Custom Modifiers, type the following

10% More Spell Damage
30% Increased Mana Regeneration Rate

These two items cover Arcane Surge which POB does not use via Arcane Adept (you will see the text in red when you hover over the node in your large cluster, indicating POB does not use the stat)

4) The POB shows a massive amount of ES degen. Is that due to Frost Shield?

5) To compare apples to apples most people set the boss level in the config window to be "Guardian/Pinnacle" This is equivalent to the old Shaper setting. It makes comparing POB's easier.

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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MrCinos wrote:

It's also kinda crazy how my effective HP is 585000 (466k without Molten Shell) for some reason, maybe something inflates it wrongly: https://pobb.in/0xkHJ1rTs9qY

Here are some comments

1) Don't forget to set your Pantheon. That will likely increase your EHP, depending on what you use.

2) You have "enemies covered in ash" enabled but I don't see Infernal Cry. Are you using a different method to get ash?

3) In the Config panel, in the Custom Modifiers, type the following

10% More Spell Damage
30% Increased Mana Regeneration Rate

These two items cover Arcane Surge which POB does not use via Arcane Adept (you will see the text in red when you hover over the node in your large cluster, indicating POB does not use the stat)

4) The POB shows a massive amount of ES degen. Is that due to Frost Shield?

5) To compare apples to apples most people set the boss level in the config window to be "Guardian/Pinnacle" This is equivalent to the old Shaper setting. It makes comparing POB's easier.

Thank you again for all the advices.

1. Right, it added more eHP. I use Soul of Lunaris and Aberath. Can't really play without the latter on any character lol. Because I dont want to check maps for it specifically and it also makes you immune from Incendiary AN death effects for instance.

2. I have it as 20% chance proc when I get hit (Fire mastery) which I assume i always "on" vs any threat that survives more than 3-5 seconds aka map boss or highest tier AN.

3. Didn't know about that, fixed it for myself.

4. Yes, though it degens only for literally a second so is never an issue even before Aegis.

5. Right, will do. Makes sense even though I'm a "mapper" you could still extrapolate better when everyone uses the same measure stick. That way my dps is "only' 3.27-3.5m. EDIT: also PoB'd Getting Empower lv4 + Divergent Incinerate 21 + Awakened Elemental Damage 6 and the damage wrnt up to 5m, damn, that's a huge difference for a Final Incinerate-Empower-Inspiration-(awakened) Elemental Focus link, awakened cwc-bodyswap are untouchable ofc.

Also, still not sure if it's better to include stuff like Molten Shell and Vaal Haste when talking about stats to other people, or I guess just mention their presence in inflating the number.

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MrCinos wrote:

5. Right, will do. Makes sense even though I'm a "mapper" you could still extrapolate better when everyone uses the same measure stick. That way my dps is "only' 3.27-3.5m. EDIT: also PoB'd Getting Empower lv4 + Divergent Incinerate 21 + Awakened Elemental Damage 6 and the damage wrnt up to 5m, damn, that's a huge difference for a Final Incinerate-Empower-Inspiration-(awakened) Elemental Focus link, awakened cwc-bodyswap are untouchable ofc.

Also, still not sure if it's better to include stuff like Molten Shell and Vaal Haste when talking about stats to other people, or I guess just mention their presence in inflating the number.

1) Be careful with Divergent Incinerate. You only want to use it if you can find a 21/20 (which does not exist in trade right now). Anything else you see, you will be better off with a 21/20 regular Incinerate

2) Awakened Elemental Focus gives a ton of DPS because when it reaches level 5, you get a +1 to Incinerate.


3) When I discuss POB damage, I try and use 2 numbers. The DPS number that I would typically see during mapping and a dps number that I would typically see during single target (which I then include items like Vaal Haste, convergence etc). I usually call this "burst" damage since it does not last forever. Most people tend to set up their POB's to represent their max burst dps.

4) I can't be certain but I think your POB may be showing you slightly less damage than you are doing. I can not quite understand how POB is taking into account your boots and Scorch because no Scorch config item is being displayed.

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

1) Be careful with Divergent Incinerate. You only want to use it if you can find a 21/20 (which does not exist in trade right now). Anything else you see, you will be better off with a 21/20 regular Incinerate

Yeah, I'm aware of that. Saving up temples to run them myself exactly for that.

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

4) I can't be certain but I think your POB may be showing you slightly less damage than you are doing. I can not quite understand how POB is taking into account your boots and Scorch because no Scorch config item is being displayed.

If you remove Nearby enemies are scorched mod from boots the damage drops down considerably. Or you can try adding the line in custom window and it won't do anything with the boots on and will do without them so PoB does calculate it behind the scene. 100% effective passive like that are on by default and not always appear in config it seems, unless they have certain % chance of activation .

Also went for 2nd large cluster setup. Getting both DPS boost (~400k~) and mana regen at the same time. I think I am set with the passive tree. Gonna get more life or additional -30% crit damage reduction on 98. Though I haven;t looked into medium cluster possibilities too much yet (dont need the one in the guide pob since I dont need immunity to stun from them), maybe it'd be worth to remove some points for 1 or 2 of those later.

What shield may I use instead od Aegis Aurora(before I get it)? Rare with which nodes? Or maybe some unique?