[3.15]Archmage Ball Lightning Hierophant, will it work in Expedition?

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Hotchilly2k wrote:
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saxisa wrote:
Hey all. Just respecced a char to this build for some league end fun. Goal was to not die. Not super successful there. With this build there's a lot missing and that I need to do, but could use some advice on how to kick my survivability up. I may not have the hang of it down yet, but sometimes I'm super tanky others I feel like I just get wasted immediately and I'm doing something wrong.

Here's my PoB:
https://pastebin.com/u43BAjvi

Can someone take a peek and let me know what would be the best path to really improve survivability? Is it me (playstyle), gear, tree?


One thing that I find is helping lot of mana regen and mana it's showing yours is 6000 in the pob. I have about 8k try aim for that and about 4k life. I finding able do most stuff. But do get one shot every know and then when righteous fire is on.


Thanks! Not sure I'm following- in PoB I have 8028 Total Mana not 6000, but my Mana Regen is 570. So I think I just need a crap ton more regen to help with survival?
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saxisa wrote:
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Hotchilly2k wrote:
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saxisa wrote:
Hey all. Just respecced a char to this build for some league end fun. Goal was to not die. Not super successful there. With this build there's a lot missing and that I need to do, but could use some advice on how to kick my survivability up. I may not have the hang of it down yet, but sometimes I'm super tanky others I feel like I just get wasted immediately and I'm doing something wrong.

Here's my PoB:
https://pastebin.com/u43BAjvi

Can someone take a peek and let me know what would be the best path to really improve survivability? Is it me (playstyle), gear, tree?


One thing that I find is helping lot of mana regen and mana it's showing yours is 6000 in the pob. I have about 8k try aim for that and about 4k life. I finding able do most stuff. But do get one shot every know and then when righteous fire is on.


Thanks! Not sure I'm following- in PoB I have 8028 Total Mana not 6000, but my Mana Regen is 570. So I think I just need a crap ton more regen to help with survival?


Your mana regen should be more like 5000-8000. So if yours is indeed 570, then you don't have the build going at all yet. A massive amount of tankiness comes from your regen.
Hey guys how do I workout my damage I see a lot of per ball things. I'm a console player BTW. The damage in game shows 117k?
The damage in the game tooltip is VERY innaccurate. In general the DPS for the Ball Lightning calculated by multiplying average hit x 6.6667. Keep in mind the DPS value calcualation for BL is based on the Cast Speed but it is completely wrong because BL has fixed hit speed.

For example if you have 500,000 Average Hit in PoB, it is
500,000 * 6.6667 = 3,333,350 DPS per FIRST ball.

Also keep in mind the effective DPS is even higher:
Greater Spell Echo
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When combined with Spell Echo Support it adds a 3rd repeat with a total of 105% more Damage. The effective DPS multiplier (including the more cast speed) of a 20/0 Spell Echo Support is 1.53, Greater Spell Echo Support effective DPS multiplier is 1.35, and of both together is 2.33.[1] The spell damage multiplier of a 20/0 Spell Echo Support is .9, of Greater Spell Echo Support is 1.35, and of both together is 1.525

If you have enough AoE mod, all 4 ballz will hit single target mutliplying the DPS x 4.
Last edited by cursorTarget on Jun 13, 2021, 9:01:05 AM
Hey, I've been playing the Elemental Overload version of this build for the past week, did all content and all bosses on A9. Started off as Alkaizer crit version but transitioned to EO and I'm quite happy with the results. I still don't have quite enough for awakened Spell echo and other gems, but honestly Dps is just enough to kill everything fast.

What do you guys think ? Is there something else I should improve ?

https://pastebin.com/MtCuJLXa

(I have only one Scintillating Idea allocatred on Clusters, as I like the added mana regen from Mindfulness)
Last edited by ggpag on Jun 15, 2021, 8:02:33 PM
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ggpag wrote:

https://pastebin.com/MtCuJLXa

[Removed by Support] Why are you using 2-notable large cluster? You could make Disorienting display and get more DPS with the Blind than wasting 1 point on small passive +12% inc Lite damage.

It's not alkaizer's build. 3.8k of Life and 9.6k of Mana. [Removed by Support] And the damage is way lower even with the Essence Ring.
You spent point on Holly Dominion and Light of Divinity. It is only ok for the leveling. Dude...

[Removed by Support] you allocated Precision [Removed by Support] You bought 20 dexterity for 2 points instead of rolling Brutal Restraint or at least spend points on Practical Application.
Last edited by Lisa_GGG on Jun 18, 2021, 6:37:54 PM
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ggpag wrote:
Hey, I've been playing the Elemental Overload version of this build for the past week, did all content and all bosses on A9. Started off as Alkaizer crit version but transitioned to EO and I'm quite happy with the results. I still don't have quite enough for awakened Spell echo and other gems, but honestly Dps is just enough to kill everything fast.

What do you guys think ? Is there something else I should improve ?

https://pastebin.com/MtCuJLXa

(I have only one Scintillating Idea allocatred on Clusters, as I like the added mana regen from Mindfulness)


Person above me seems to be having a bad day, I'd ignore that post. Tree looks good overall.

Things to aim for:
Get enough dex on gear to drop Brutal Restraint, put Healthy Mind in its spot, and pick up another DPS jewel.
Belt has a nice implicit but a stygian vise would be very nice. That would let you get a phasing on kill jewel, and you could drop quartz flask for Atziri's Promise.
Divine your Cloak of Defiance or buy a new one, getting it to 140+ mana is a 3% dps increase alone.
Aetherwind glove base is a very nice QOL.
Awakened Gems
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Spattergroit wrote:
Person above me seems to be having a bad day, I'd ignore that post. Tree looks good overall.

Things to aim for:
Get enough dex on gear to drop Brutal Restraint, put Healthy Mind in its spot, and pick up another DPS jewel.
Belt has a nice implicit but a stygian vise would be very nice. That would let you get a phasing on kill jewel, and you could drop quartz flask for Atziri's Promise.
Divine your Cloak of Defiance or buy a new one, getting it to 140+ mana is a 3% dps increase alone.
Aetherwind glove base is a very nice QOL.
Awakened Gems


Thanks I appreciate the answer and for checking out my POB. I'll look into the suggestions to improve :)

I saw the response from the other guy and I just didn't even bother about it. Some people just want to make the experience of sharing through forums a bad one.
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Spattergroit wrote:
Person above me seems to be having a bad day, I'd ignore that post.

Sure. Ignore the fact that he uses 2-moded cluster instead of 3-moded, spent 2 points on low DPS notabale, 2 points for 20 dex (10 dex per point) and has low EHP.

It's bad idea to copy-paste someone's tree without analyzing it and telling other people to do the same blindly.

ggpag
1. Go crit if you want more damage.
2. Add one notable to the Large Cluster, Disorinting Display for example instead of using small passive that grants only +12%. The only reason why alkaizerx didn't gamble it - he didn't give a ... you know. But most ppl copied him blindly.
3. I'd allocate Dreamer sacrificing some DPS a bit bit it gives more QoL because of mana regen, also "Mana and Mana Regeneration" next to the Arcane Will.
4. Deallocate Light of Divinity, Holy Dominion and the whole Supreme Ego branch. These Notables are only ok for leveling.
5. Reroll mana mod on Cloak of Defiance, 105 is not enough, roll to 140-150. Replace gloves with better one with T1s Life and Mana +78-79
6. If you go crit same goes to the boots, 35 MS with Tailwind / Onslaught and 5% bonus MS if you didn't get hit (in addition to 30%MS).
7. Reroll Amulet values
8. Same goes to the ring, mana and life must be T1.
9. Use Catalysts on rings, belt and amulet
10. Replace belt, it's garbage. You need T1 Mana and Life mods on it and ideally it's should be Stygian Vise with the Abbys Jewel (same - Life and Mana + stats like resistance, dexterity, anti corrupted blooed, Onslaught, whatever)
11. You don't need Divine Flask. After all changes you will have 5k+ of Life with decent Mana Regen. Just drop it. Your flask setup must be:
- Quartz + Anti curse and reduced charges
- Basalt + Anti bleed and reduced charges
- Rumi's Concoction
- The Wise Oac <- your resistances MUST be balanced and be the same
- Quicksilver with MS mod and reduced charges or Increased Effect.

Anyway I understand that you play Tutorial Mode (Trade Softcore) so you actually don't need defences and any lack of Life can be solved by pressing "Resurrect" button.

PS I recommend you to ignore ppl playing SC if you have some question. ;)
Last edited by cursorTarget on Jun 19, 2021, 1:16:47 AM
Hello,

Which one is 3.14 POB?

Is the POB in page 1 still good for 3.14? I am confused.

Can someone share optimized 3.14 POB please?

Thank you in advance.
Last edited by kinetbenet on Jun 19, 2021, 1:15:45 PM

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