Corona virus

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Johny_Snow wrote:

A bunch of guys in Turkey decided to drink "special" alcohol to protect themselves from the virus. Hours later, 15 of them are dead and 60 are in serious condition proving once again that no outside threat beats human stupidity.

you can say 15 of then won't catch the virus so it has a certain ratio of success.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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Boem wrote:

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

Because no famous fascist was ever legitimately elected into office. Oh wait, nevermind, yes they have.

I didn't think you were of the "trump is literally hitler" crowd.

No, I'm more of the "Hitler was literally Hitler" persuasion.

Hitler was not democratically elected. He was appointed chancellor by President Hindenburg.

^ we all know this.

This is "literally" semantic warfare.

We aren't a Democracy in the US anyways, and we have an electoral college. This is beyond debate in terms of facts, but people can have their view on political motivations, or try to play armchair psychologist, getting in the heads of people they "literally" dont know.

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awesome999 wrote:

Hitler was not democratically elected. He was appointed chancellor by President Hindenburg.

First he was appointed to the office, then Hitler defended it in the election later that year. By the same logic one could make the ridiculous claim that Boris Johnson was not elected Prime Minister of the UK.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

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awesome999 wrote:

Hitler was not democratically elected. He was appointed chancellor by President Hindenburg.

First he was appointed to the office, then Hitler defended it in the election later that year. By the same logic one could make the ridiculous claim that Boris Johnson was not elected Prime Minister of the UK.

If you are talking about the referendum that combine the positions of President and Chancellor, the referendum itself would be unconstitutional and should be invalidated. He is a dictator at that point, who would be checking?

It is a farce to further consolidate his power. After passing of the Enabling Act, all Non-Nazi parties outlawed and the death of Hindenburg, nobody could challenge Hitler as head of the government.

He was popular, I would acknowledge that.

Scrotie your stretching the posibilities of reality just like charan is stretching his.

It isn't the danger to public health like charan imagines it, even with the amount of death we see it's still a low mortality rate virus.
Numbers just get high because the total population is high and country's are getting caught off-gaurd.

And it also isn't the totalitarian gateway event which your angling at.

It will probably result in a joined effort to tackle the situation because doing otherwise would be political suicide now.

Be happy it's a joined effort against a virus and not another country.

Pretending you can do a repeat of germany in america just shows geographical ignorance as far as i am concerned. By the time you convince one part of america to go down that route the other parts are already on something else.
You might "convince" a single state which would be like being germany inside the EU and ultimately get smacked down.

Don't pretend america is some kind of united front, it isn't, just like the EU is not.
Country's are like company's in that regard, running perfectly looking from the outside in, until you join them and get to learn how things actually run and how divided the house really is.

Peace,

-Boem-

I'm starting to come down with a cold - runny nose and lots of sneezing. I'll probably have to take a few days off work because even though these are not symptoms of coronavirus, I work with the public and most people are ill-informed idiots who will think I'm going to infect them.

I have something interesting to share. An old friend of mine was recently part of the first phase of Covid-19 vaccine testing. I'm sharing his experiences with his permission here. This guy is kind of my hero right now, but he's the humblest dude and wrote all of this on an FB thread I made about how scared I was. This is not a cut-and-paste from somewhere, but primary information. That said, you can see this guy on the news all over the place now. It's funny because most of our history is back when I was a real chatroom terror in the late 90s. Who'da thunk one of us might have gone on to possibly help save the world?

Enjoy.

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COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2 VACCINE TRIAL

ACCOUNT FROM A FIRST PHASE TEST SUBJECT

Author: Neal Browning, Seattle, Washington

Early March, about 2 weeks prior to the injection, I was contacted about this trial. I answered very basic information about my health and health history. 2 days later, I was sent a LOT of info about this, potential side effects, expectations if I am to be in the trial, and such. After going through this, they brought me in 10 days before the vaccine to have blood drawn, urine sample (drug screening, not just illegal, but ANY drugs I might be on, even ibuprofen and such), a full physical, and a deep dive discussion into any surgeries I have had, allergies, asthma, if I ever had cancer, if I was immunocompromised, the whole enchilada.

After passing the physical and medical history, they said I should get a call in about 4-5 days after the blood and urine testing results came back. Got a call around noon on the 6th day after the blood draws, and was told I was all good, no underlying health issues were found, and I was in the trial officially (this was Tuesday, 10th of March). Originally was supposed to start that Wednesday, but the FDA wanted some things in the waivers we all had to sign changed, so they pushed things out to this past Monday the 16th.
I arrived Monday, March 16th at 7:40am. They take me back into an exam room again, and I go through another small physical (Temp, reflexes, feeling for swollen lymph nodes, listed to heart and lungs, pulse, BP), lots of documentation and recording of things, then I get the injection.

Restrictions: I cannot travel outside the US for over a year, I need to restrict exposure as much as I can, since contracting COVID-19 would likely interfere with the trial. I cannot donate blood, semen, or be in any other trials for a year, cannot become pregnant (if female), and must use a condom unless you have had a vasectomy. Otherwise, I get a call 24, then 48 hours after the vaccine to make sure there isn't anything big happening. I have their on call numbers to get a person immediately if there are issues, aside from this, I keep a daily log they sent me with, where I record temp once a day, and report ANYTHING. They want to know if I have a headache, sprain my ankle - anything, even if seemingly unrelated to the vaccine.

ABOUT THE VACCINE

Most all vaccines are made from either dead or weakened versions of the cell your body is being taught to recognize and fight. This is not that type vaccine. This uses mRNA (messenger RNA).

This mRNA is injected and "infects" cells near the injection point. These will be used as instructions to make the cells they invade, to produce certain protein structures. I am sure you have seen MANY pictures of the COVID-19 cell by now, a small ball with protrusions of tiny triangles on the ends. These are the protein structures my cells will make. My body should see these as some type of invasion, and react - sending white blood cells in to kill these structures. The white blood cells will produce specific antigens, like the opposite puzzle piece to the structures my body made, which are the same protrusion on the outside of COVID-19.

If my body reacts appropriately, it will learn how to make these antigens that can rapidly attach to and kill the COVID-like structures. Since these are just representations of the outside of the virus, they pose no threat to me. If this works, should anyone who has been given this vaccine contract the virus, the body should recognize it much faster, and be able to quickly respond to and kill it, since it will know how to attack it from the vaccine exposure.
Should this not work, either my cells won't make the right proteins, or my body doesn't see them as a threat, then the RNA will break apart in a few weeks and be absorbed by the body.

I'm in Phase 1, first humans to receive this - all healthy, between 18 and 55 years old, only 45 people in 3 groups of 15. Each group will receive a different amount of vaccine to help determine the amount that is most effective to give the desired results. Phase 2, will be a larger, far more diverse group, purposefully including those with underlying or active health conditions - in order to ensure as many as possible can have this without any ill effects.

^People shouldn't jump on it, mNRA is in testing stages and has never been utilized before.

It looks promising theoretical and could be applied very diversily. Happy to see these things being pushed a lot faster then usual.
But we have no clue about long term effects on people.

As far as i know, earliest projections of a vacine are a year and eighth months out.
Currently they seem to be working both on a vacine and testing anti-virals.

Apparently the stuff trump mentioned as a vacine is something made in my country and is just an agent that has proven effective against other forms of corona, nothing to do with this variant.
Might be used as a bridge to a cure and is probably being studied right now but i haven't looked into it specifically.

Time for tech to catch up with reality and deliver on it's promises i reckon.

Peace,

-Boem-