[3.13] HC/SC/SSF All Content Miner - Any Mine Skill - LL/CI - 12k ES w/ Videos!

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Datrogh wrote:
First Mine Build here and I didn't have any problems following your guide (even though I feel that I've had stronger league starts), so thank you for the guide!

Transition -> CI -> LL was smooth and build feels strong so far on a 5L Shavs

It'll not come up for a few days for me at least, but I've got a question regarding the Helmet Enchantment. The guide says that the best enchant for bossing is the slower speed, but does that even exist anymore? Wouldn't increased AOE be better?
And I don't really understand why "BL fires an additional projectile" wouldn't be even better, because it should double the damage?


It does not, only in standard.

Best now is either area of effect or damage depending on how much AoE you have.

As far as added projectile - you do want one source of this, either helm or dying sun, but it doesn’t add to damage in the way you might think.

Each mine can only damage a target with one instance of BL. So even if you fire 40 projectiles from each mine, only one will damage a singular mob. Helps with clear speed a lot though.
Thanks for the replies!
Got a few more questions:
1. Why there is twice as much GC saboteurs compared to BL on poe.ninja?
2. Machina Mitts is indeed good defensive gloves option, yet why no one using Algor Mortis for BL mines? Paired with Vortex they seems to be able to give some good damage boost.
3. Which mines is the best for solo target DPS on mid gear and high gear?
4. How can I check if I'm actually hitting 11 ticks on BL?
Last edited by Ultimait on Jan 21, 2021, 8:05:40 AM
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BeerLeague wrote:
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Datrogh wrote:
First Mine Build here and I didn't have any problems following your guide (even though I feel that I've had stronger league starts), so thank you for the guide!

Transition -> CI -> LL was smooth and build feels strong so far on a 5L Shavs

It'll not come up for a few days for me at least, but I've got a question regarding the Helmet Enchantment. The guide says that the best enchant for bossing is the slower speed, but does that even exist anymore? Wouldn't increased AOE be better?
And I don't really understand why "BL fires an additional projectile" wouldn't be even better, because it should double the damage?


It does not, only in standard.

Best now is either area of effect or damage depending on how much AoE you have.

As far as added projectile - you do want one source of this, either helm or dying sun, but it doesn’t add to damage in the way you might think.

Each mine can only damage a target with one instance of BL. So even if you fire 40 projectiles from each mine, only one will damage a singular mob. Helps with clear speed a lot though.


Thank you very much for that clarification, I didn't know that and would have been stumped when my damage didn't skyrocket for the bosses ^^
I'll calculate the effect of AOE or damage for the enchant for me and probably just get a Dying Sun for mapping, then.
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giingee wrote:
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BeerLeague wrote:
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giingee wrote:



Mana reservation nodes and enlighten. This league you will need to drop one of the 25% auras until you have an enlighten 4.


Ok, so mana reservation nodes will help speed up placing mines ?

I am currently only able to run akitterbots and ensemble so far as do not have the mana res to run, discipline, wrath or zealotly.

Just hit act 10 aswell and sitting at 1.9kes and 1k life


Oh, i misread that. No, they help get out more mines.

For the speed, you just need levels. [/quote]

Tha ks again for responding.

Levels on which gems ? I can place alot of mines but it is getting alot of them down quick enough like using a tremor rod to place 5 at a time.
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Ultimait wrote:
Thanks for the replies!
Got a few more questions:
1. Why there is twice as much GC saboteurs compared to BL on poe.ninja?
2. Machina Mitts is indeed good defensive gloves option, yet why no one using Algor Mortis for BL mines? Paired with Vortex they seems to be able to give some good damage boost.
3. Which mines is the best for solo target DPS on mid gear and high gear?
4. How can I check if I'm actually hitting 11 ticks on BL?


1. Probably due to the perceived nerf of BL

2. Build generally doesnt need more dps

3. Pyroclast

4. https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/6xz7rs/finished_my_ball_lightning_dps_calculator_that/
Honestly this build lacks a lot of dmg.....

I cant even kill Mino T16 with Maven on it, i do literally no dmg to him and he gets full regen again O.o

With Flasks BL does 30k dmg
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Jennyfer9270 wrote:
Honestly this build lacks a lot of dmg.....

I cant even kill Mino T16 with Maven on it, i do literally no dmg to him and he gets full regen again O.o

With Flasks BL does 30k dmg


Oof, not happy to hear that. Maybe the nerfs hit this harder than was thought?

A question:

How much damage will I gain by buying an expensive wand? I have now this really cheap sceptre:


And if I would buy this:


How much will this exactly benefit me? If I look at the numbers, they don't look THAT significantly different, but the price difference is like from 1 c to 1 ex.
Last edited by Irmeli on Jan 22, 2021, 1:15:03 AM
Here is my POB
https://pastebin.com/C7ut90xx

Opted to go with Large cluster jewel so I get the Aura, Mine and Lightning nodes (as well as 2x Energy from Naught) instead of Transcendent Flesh/Thread of Hope as you suggested.

Atm at level 91, Guardians, Shaper, Elder, Uber Elder, Sirus, Breaches down. Having a bit trouble with the Mavens Invitations for the Uncharted Realms (for example trying the Hidden (4 breach bosses) gets tough considering they have much more HP (also fuck Tul).

Wanted to ask what could be done for more DPS (my idea is to try and get Elder ring sorted out to get Mark). However in such a setup swapping out the weapon later is troublesome, since in that case I need both dex and the fire res I got on my weapon atm.

Also, would it be better to drop the Large cluster and 1x medium (which one?) and get Transcendent Flesh/Thread of Hope instead=?

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BeerLeague wrote:
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BrettLee wrote:
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Ultimait wrote:
Approximately how much Pyroclast mines are better at solo target DPS than BL?


Also, what should I change to get significant damage boost?
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Ultimait/characters?characterName=IHateActsSoMuch

TLDR: What I did wrong and how can I make my miner to pass Maven DPS checks, preferably without spending hundreds of exalts?


First tip would be to avoid this guide, because OP has no idea what he is talking about. To increase your damage, you need support skills. These are wave of conviction, bear trap (25% increased damage taken, not increased damage, is a huge damage boost), sniper's mark/conductivity and blade blast.

Early on, you can just use wave of conviction and call it a day. For BL, I would typically link it with hextouch + conducitivty. Later on, you have two choices.

1. A good wand with an open suffix, craft trigger socketed spells. Use bear trap, wave of conviction and conducitivity/sniper's mark. Easy peasy. Note, I have not used bear trap in this setup, if it works definitely use it, if not use blade blast for unnerve.

2. Arcanist brand in 4L setup with those skills, just use it against bosses.

Sniper's mark / conductivity, bear trap and wave of conviction will provide you with a massive DPS boost.

Another skill people seem to be using is sigil of power, in a trigger wand setup. Not something I have tried, but worth checking out. The blasphemy / enfeeble use of curse is probably better suited for HC.



lol okay. I would say 400+ pages of comments say something different.

Also, the comment on the trigger wand makes me believe you really are unsure of some of the finer game mechanics as the build cant reliability trigger all three spells on a single target.


Yeah I don't understand people commenting like that just to trigger the op, not even knowing or having tested what they say...

That said, traps can't be triggered by the wand mod "trigger socketed spells when you use a skill".
But a setup like : Wave of conviction + temporal chains (or whatever curse) + sigil of power seems to work fine. It's not 100% reliable with the cooldown of the mod, but help a lot and pretty reliable on single target.

I'm in SSF with Pyroclast, I don't have the stuff to switch CI or even LL, so every little thing that can help like that setup is welcomed.

The two main things of the build at my stage are survivability and
practicality.
I already have tooooo much buttons to press (mines + detonate + bear trap + flame dash + decoy totem + 3 flasks + vaal grace + vaal rf + vaal summon skeleton) so a second "automatic" setup help (+ cwdt one of course) :)
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Irmeli wrote:

How much damage will I gain by buying an expensive wand? I have now this really cheap sceptre:


And if I would buy this:


How much will this exactly benefit me? If I look at the numbers, they don't look THAT significantly different, but the price difference is like from 1 c to 1 ex.


your old sceptre is only a Little bit weaker than the wand. I would Keep it and wait for smth better.

Check the first post here
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2660573/page/275
for nice gear, to see, what your Goal could be.
Guild "Metal" /// league + standard /// NO voice-chat necessary
Last edited by Infarkt on Jan 22, 2021, 6:09:26 AM

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