3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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BopMajster wrote:

also, what to upgrade next? lethal pride seems like one of the last upgrades and my budget is not that big yet.

* you can look at the first post in the thread and you will see that there are a bunch of aura choices there. Choose one that looks interesting to you and fits with in your mana. There is not a ton of difference to be honest.

* You are at the point where upgrades become really expensive.

Lethal Pride, Watcher's Eye, Tier 1 Belt and Rings

* Is your AG fully decked out in the good gear recommended in the first post? This is cheaper than upgrading your gear at this point if you have not done it already

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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BopMajster wrote:

also, what to upgrade next? lethal pride seems like one of the last upgrades and my budget is not that big yet.

* you can look at the first post in the thread and you will see that there are a bunch of aura choices there. Choose one that looks interesting to you and fits with in your mana. There is not a ton of difference to be honest.

* You are at the point where upgrades become really expensive.

Lethal Pride, Watcher's Eye, Tier 1 Belt and Rings

* Is your AG fully decked out in the good gear recommended in the first post? This is cheaper than upgrading your gear at this point if you have not done it already

thats what i was afraid of. that only those things left to me.
Yeah i got kingmaker, Garb of the Ephemeral, Mask of the Tribunal, Victario's Flight and Meginord's Vise
i guess thats ok?

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BopMajster wrote:

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

You have different colors than I do. I run the following

Pride - Discipline - Dread Banner - Flesh and Stone - Maim - Enlighten L3

Can you sneak skitterbots into your setup? The shock gives good extra dps.

This is my build:

2 questions here:
1. what should i upgrade next to give me most value? i have only 1219 STR, but i dont undestand how lethal pride works.


2. What should i put in in my chest instead of blasphemy as there is no point having blasphemy, since i got vulnerability on gloves.
My chest aura is Pride - Enlighten 4 - dread banner - summon skitterbots - discipline - free slot

I saw that @AndyLovesHisBge recomends Pride - Discipline - Dread Banner - Flesh and Stone - Maim - Enlighten L3, but is that better than summon skitterbots + anything else?
based on my POB calculations its actually completly the same on boss.( less than 1% difference, since flesh and stone aplay 16% dmg increase on target and skitterbots aplay 15%. I tested maim support in POB and it doesnt add any extra damage, since carrion golem alredy aplay maim debuff on target. You cannot maim more than once, but the good thing is that in blood stance you insta maim all the targets around you (what is the range of blood stance?) and this way increase maping speed, since carrion golem aplays maim only on 1 target.

if we go that route, with maim + flesh and stone, then golem doesnt need maim and we can put anything else there. My question is what?

but if i keep skitterbots in my chest, what could i add then?

probably at the end of the day i think that flesh and stone + watchers eye(with chaos resistance) + something else except maim would be the best. im just not familiar with all the gems in the game so i have no idea, what else to add.

Hey there, i see you're running a defensive build, me and some others here are running the Jhoc's variant of the build which has 3 efficient training( you can look up my necro tree). As for gear i'll list it below.

Basically the boots let you remove phase run and flask and open up options to alternatives + add annoint like your astramentis. A watchers eye with 50% chaos resist when using purity of elements. The holy relic lets you remove convocation and gives them auto regen every few seconds- you don't really need to reposition your zombies unless its like death and taxes map. The 6 Link cyclone has maim which usually gets applied first with your vul on hit gloves as you move around packs you hit the mobs before your minions( 50% default movespeed it nice too) so you apply maim and vul and your zombies then slam/hit/kill them, Also the 6L gives you an 8% phy damage red with infused channelling. I haven't been able to hit t2 str roll on my belt yet with over 2 ex worth chaos spams so going to upgrade it later after i get my lethal pride with good rolls until then brawn Crimson is worthwhile with corrupted blood.



Enlighten 4 linked with Pride, Discipline and Purity of elements. Using dread banner on my ring leaves me with 1 % unreserved mana which is like 16-17 mana sufficient for all maps mods except no life or regen. in those case swap flask to hybrid deactivating discipline and use an hybrid flask your 300 mana lasts for 35-40% of the map and you'll be having surplus charges for bosses. Being chaos resist capped is imp once you want to progress past 95.

Also noted all your gems are not 20% quality, those juiced up gems contribute a lot.

I can also share my current set up, is reaaally expensive and some items got it by luck corruptions or snipes in the market.

Is my take to get the tank set up but have more dmg auras to have the higher dps possible in boss fights. I kill guardians and conquerors in seconds and have 14eHP with a big molten shell shield to keep me alive (10.5k). My AG have the Demon Mask, Garb of Ephemeral, Sothbounds with Vulnerability on hit, Kingmaker and Windshriker for +1 extra curse. That's because I use another curse cast in a 6L, I have defensive option with Temporal Chains since I want to get to 100.

Auras are Flesh and Stone with Maim, Pride, Purity of Elements, Dread Banner and Aspect of the Spider I chose it over Avian because the dmg is always there and the extra defense of Hinder is really nice, Avian dmg was very inconsistent without Sqawal's chest. My Cyclone is free to cast so no mana reg maps can be done without mana flasks.

I have over 1million dps per zombie in Shaper/Elder and multiple layers of defense. I'm in love with this build and I learn a lot about the game messing around with the set up. Since I start playing in November last year.

Build isn't working for me. I have 6 socket chest (very expensive) but can't include all the buffs. You need a lvl 4 enlighten gem which is 20+ exalt but luckily now it's is 5.4 exalt. This is not a beginner build and it's quite expensive. I would stay away from it.Maybe I'm just newbie but I've been playing the game for 3 years now

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aymanzone1 wrote:

Build isn't working for me. I have 6 socket chest (very expensive) but can't include all the buffs. You need a lvl 4 enlighten gem which is 20+ exalt but luckily now it's is 5.4 exalt. This is not a beginner build and it's quite expensive. I would stay away from it.Maybe I'm just newbie but I've been playing the game for 3 years now

I feel like a lot of people jump to the conclusion that they can look at someone's endgame setup and just buy everything to play it without really working up to it themselves (gem levels, gem quality, character levels, min/maxed stats, etc.). Just because it's not working for you right now doesn't mean it won't work. Brunowa has been developing this build for the past several months and has built up a LOT of currency doing so. His stuff is min/maxed quite a bit.

There's a budget version of the build that works perfectly fine for beginners who want to play the build. I killed Sirus on A8 with a Queen's Escape, Geofri's, 2 auras, and no AG.

For your case specifically, might I suggest simply dropping an aura?
Or, perhaps, run a Merveil's Chosen spectre for Vulnerability, drop Blasphemy, and run Flesh and Stone instead?

There are always options to change things around to suit where you are in the build and what you have available, but you need to find them.

Sorry, I might have missed some responses that answer my question in the middle but I would like to ask a question about the AG again. I just used the Mask of the Stitched Demon on my AG, and I'm using Grave Intentions in the skill tree. However, I didn't see any energy shield on my AG as others minions do. Am I doing something wrong?

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hugopoeint wrote:

Sorry, I might have missed some responses that answer my question in the middle but I would like to ask a question about the AG again. I just used the Mask of the Stitched Demon on my AG, and I'm using Grave Intentions in the skill tree. However, I didn't see any energy shield on my AG as others minions do. Am I doing something wrong?

No, is exactly how the mask work. The AG lose all the Energy shield but instead gain 1% of maximum life as regeneration per 500 max shield. depending of how much life your AG have the number can change mine for example with only the 10% of Grave Intentions node regen 15% of his max life. that means 10k regen of life per second. So that's why the AG can't die unless a huge burst happen or the AG is in a skill that negate regeneration that's why Acid Caverns and Hall of Grand Masters can kill AG. Using Bone barrier you can avoid AG dying to bleed and corrupted blood.

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Osgili4th wrote:

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hugopoeint wrote:

Sorry, I might have missed some responses that answer my question in the middle but I would like to ask a question about the AG again. I just used the Mask of the Stitched Demon on my AG, and I'm using Grave Intentions in the skill tree. However, I didn't see any energy shield on my AG as others minions do. Am I doing something wrong?

No, is exactly how the mask work. The AG lose all the Energy shield but instead gain 1% of maximum life as regeneration per 500 max shield. depending of how much life your AG have the number can change mine for example with only the 10% of Grave Intentions node regen 15% of his max life. that means 10k regen of life per second. So that's why the AG can't die unless a huge burst happen or the AG is in a skill that negate regeneration that's why Acid Caverns and Hall of Grand Masters can kill AG. Using Bone barrier you can avoid AG dying to bleed and corrupted blood.

Thank you so much for your response,and now I finally know how the skill mechanics work.

Can someone tell me what's wrong with my defensive summoner? I seem to die more than I should. Account name is TheChosenOne_ and character is my lvl 89 summoner. If I can't use all 4 auras which aura should I leave out? I can't use pride aura yet if that matters but I can use the other 3. Also not using animate guardian yet