3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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mariano0928 wrote:
Hi guys, first time playing this build.

This is my doubt, on the Ascendancy tree, there is this two talents we all know:

"Commander of Darkness" and "Mistress of sacrifice"

Takeing into account that i am using "Spirit offering", i get the next things from "Mistress of sacrifice":

- Around 23% all elemental ress.
- Around 23% chaos ress.
- 30% duration (we cast it often so this doesnt relly matter)
- 30% minion duration (only good if you use skeletons)

Remember that it is the PLAYER that get this buffs from the talent "Mistress of sacrifice" (the minions already get them all without the talent).

Then we have "Commander of Darkness", here we AND THE MINIONS get:

- 3% attack speed for each minion
- 30% damage
- 30% all resistances (YOU and the MINIONS)

So, as we can see, we get 23% all ress and 23% chaos ress from "Mistress of sacrifice" (but again, ONLY the player get this buffs; the minions are already getting this buffs without the talent). In the other hand, WE and THE MINIONS get 30% all ress, 30% damage (only good for minions, not us) and 3% attack speed for each minion from "Commander of Darkness" (again, only good for minions).

You guys see where i am getting with this? I see all the people saying that "Mistress of sacrifice" is better for "tank", but looks like "Commander of Darkness" gives us some extra things over "Mistress of sacrifice":

"Commander of Darkness" "Mistress of sacrifice"

30% elem. ress for minions and we - VS - 23% all ress (chaos too) only for us
30% more damage for minions - VS - No damage to anything
3% attack speed for minions - VS - No speed

The 30% minion duration and 30% skill duration are not that important if you ask me. The only plus + i can give to "Mistress of sacrifice" is that we get 23% chaos resistance.

So my final question is:

23% chaos resistance is better than +30% damage to minions, +30 all ress (for us and the minions) and 3% attack speed per minion? Which one is better? For me "Commander of Darkness" is better, but maybe 23% chaos resistance is HUGE or i am missing something here.

Ty for reading.


It comes down to resistances. If you can cap them without mistress, go commander. If not, go mistress.

Mistress is also good for speed farming (using flesh offering) and blocking (bone offering).
Last edited by brunowa#6253 on Mar 18, 2020, 2:45:50 AM
An update from me.

Running red maps now, delirium is overtuned so I'm taking it slow.

Current gear (5.8k life, 3k ES). Bear in mind gloves/weapon have crappy links/color for now, i'm still toying around

Spoiler




Why no 6l femur yet? Because i've got saqawal ready and need to grab an aspect weapon:



From what I've tested it should be easily possible to reach 1k str threshold, even after dropping alberons. That should enable some better gloves/boots/jewellery choice.

However, I've got a question regarding the weapon. How to best approach crafting an avian 2h?

elder fortify +1 lvl gems route, then beastcraft avian, then multimod?

Also, what would be links for the 6l non femur zombie? I've seen some more experienced of You not using feeding frenzy in their zombies link. Doesn't losing "aggressive" part hurt with clear? Or does it apply for all of your minions regardless of source? (say, from the golem).

I'd appreciate a response, in the meanwhile:

stay safe exiles, and remember: PoE is a GAME after all, it's supposed to be fun for You. If You're not enjoying playing this particular build after the changes, and are unwilling to put any mental work into making it work yourself, just switch to something else :)
Just got molten shell and realised you cannot use it and bone armour at the same time.
People who are running molten shell have you changed ascendancy or are you keeping bone barrier and not using skill?
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Rorschach393 wrote:
Just got molten shell and realised you cannot use it and bone armour at the same time.
People who are running molten shell have you changed ascendancy or are you keeping bone barrier and not using skill?



You need to read the full guide. We are using VAAL molten shell. The normal version isa joke, and nearly no one uses it.




I think i found my sweetspot in terms of gear and skilltree.

Current gear:





With this setup i achive 5.6k Life, around 55% armor and the damage from my minions went through the roof.
This is a endgame setup, nothing of this was cheap (execpt the gloves) But you can basically run beefy T16 maps without much issue.

my Pob: https://pastebin.com/wzXdT8rP

Mana and resistances are a pain to keep up.
I also have only 1040 strength, so it works with the new baron (i wonder how people got to 1200 strength before)

Next step would be a good enchantment on the helmet (-reserved mana determination/pride/purity of elemtents or zombie damage)

Spectre Setup: 1 Host Chieftain - 1 Carnage Chieftain - 1 Undying Evagelist - 1 Diablolist (casts enefeeble)

Update for AG could be a Vixen's Entrapment with a vulnarbility corrupt for double curse setup (expensive)
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destrock wrote:
Is this me or you are not following your own guide ? No shaper's touch ? No unique body armour ? Your gear on your last video give 366 strength do you have 1000 ?


Guide works fine. I'm just looking for some tweaks for improvements.

I'll post a 3.10 update in a couple of hours.
Ive started this build on leaguestart. Initially followed the guide but now trying to make my own thoughts based on some ideas.

so far iam now on 14 watchstones and the build starts feeling good. i went away from ES and going now into full life. iam far away from optimsed but currently iam relativly satisfied.



just hit a realativly cheap 6 link on my saquals nest with 421 fusings but sold it recently. also hit a lvl4 empower. lucky me.


@those crykids here. Stop whine, cry and attack the OP. If you blind follow a guide without taking current patchnotes, fixes, nerfs into context, then maybe PoE doesnt fit to you.
Following this build right now, feels nice, but... Why do we use Cyclone? It's dps near to nothing. Only for stun immunity? To auto-trigger Offering?
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AethGorr wrote:
Following this build right now, feels nice, but... Why do we use Cyclone? It's dps near to nothing. Only for stun immunity? To auto-trigger Offering?


yes, cyclone is a channeling skill so with cast while channeling you activate desecrate and the offering you want to use :) you can alternate offerings for speed clear or damage reduction :)
How can I see the resistances of my zombies?
Guys, can someone help me?

What aura setup should I use while I wait for my enlighten to level up?

At the moment I'm running pride and hatred, cant use purity of element and banners because all my mana is reserved.
I'm using a 5L Geofry because of no money for saqawal right now, 6L zombie setup on queen's escape and managed to reach 1000 str whit 3 efficient training.

Mapping is slow and sometimes my zombies die, any idea?


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