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But how about -100% damage?
Baseline gem has 2 spectres instead of 1.
So thats 100% more right there, becomes less the more you invest in it but still overall +1 spectre in the mix.
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Posted byBoemon Aug 30, 2019, 8:20:24 PMOn Probation
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But how about -100% damage?
Baseline gem has 2 spectres instead of 1.
So thats 100% more right there, becomes less the more you invest in it but still overall +1 spectre in the mix.
So its just a change to +1 spectre but for price of -100% dmg to all your spectres instead?
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Posted byDarkJenon Aug 30, 2019, 8:23:39 PM
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M'kay… raise specter is out. How high can we pump it up? Level 28 would give us level 88 specters. We've never seen that before.
Bow (Can also use helm)
Paragon's (+1 socketed gems so +2 with empower)
Craft (+2 support gems)
Delve (+1 str or int gems)
1 corrupt
2 ascendancy
4 empower lvl 4
20 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 32 before we even see new shenanigans with ALL MINION GEM LEVEL +X stats and combinations with things like +1 socketed gem chest or a +3 minion helm
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Posted byDemigodParadoxon Aug 30, 2019, 8:25:19 PM
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M'kay… raise specter is out. How high can we pump it up? Level 28 would give us level 88 specters. We've never seen that before.
91 is theoretical max level. At 88 it's a 10% life loss if you lose 100% increased life from the ascendancy. At 91 it's a 10% gain (I think), and keep in mind there is more minion life being added to the tree, and 20% MORE Minion life from the Ascendancy.
EDIT: To explain it better: level 84 specters with soul weaver are equivalent to level 90 specters without it. And we are getting even more minion life from the tree and ascendancy.
But how about -100% damage?
We gained a specter via the gem. And baseline damage has raised by at least 10%. It should be higher just through that alone.
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Posted byKnightAgentaon Aug 30, 2019, 8:27:02 PM
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But how about -100% damage?
Baseline gem has 2 spectres instead of 1.
So thats 100% more right there, becomes less the more you invest in it but still overall +1 spectre in the mix.
So its just a change to +1 spectre but for price of -100% dmg to all your spectres instead?
There is a huge difference between "increased" and "more". The missing 100% increased damage on the spectre is already about the same more damage as an additional spectre before anything else is even taken into account assuming you were running 3 specters (most popular) before.
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Posted byDemigodParadoxon Aug 30, 2019, 8:28:58 PM
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Welp, lv 91 Spectres it is i guess?
81 (lv 21 gem) +2 (Necro) +7 (lv 4+3 Empower) +1 (new wand rare mod) = 91
Am i missing something?
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Posted byHerrImHimmelon Aug 30, 2019, 9:03:13 PM
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Welp, lv 91 Spectres it is i guess?
81 (lv 21 gem) +2 (Necro) +7 (lv 4+3 Empower) +1 (new wand rare mod) = 91
Am i missing something?
Nope. But imagine if the +3 minion gems from Elder Helmets goes global... Good god that would be insane.
EDIT: That mod ain't elder exclusive. It's bound fossil. Minion damage is elder-exclusive.
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Posted byKnightAgentaon Aug 30, 2019, 9:06:15 PM
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Is this good? I really have never played a necro.
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Posted byNephalimon Aug 30, 2019, 9:28:12 PM
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[Removed by Support], if GGG thinks that fixing the behavior of minions and not actually giving them some much needed buffs was enough (in fact not even having an archtype meant to buff them at all), then they were very wrong. Tower defense league is dead.
Buffs we are getting for summons especially zombie is enough as they hit hard now too, the main thing was AI which is changed now
As with these buffs they don't have to nerf summons next league and anymore buffs will end up like cyclone or winterorb, if you want that, cry in forums and if not go try some zombies before league that will clear your mind
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Posted byAdmiralGhoston Aug 30, 2019, 9:55:27 PM
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Never seen empower being used in any minion build. I've never played one, I'll be fair in admiting to that. But absolutely no build whatsoever that I have seen ever used or advised at any point to use empower, even a level 4 one so I'll remain doubtful on that end. Kinda the reason i'm not particularly entused by the want +1 minion gems but they do have other bonus so... Yeah.
As for zombies dying. Again not acording to what I've seen and I've seen them stand in the uber shaper beam like they don't give a damn so. Life doesn't seems like a concern. it is early game when you don't have leech and regen on them but after you get those going, you probably don't care anymore.
I also doubt the carrior golem will be enough damage buff to make up for what the ascendency should be giving, but fair enough I'll reserve judgment there, you could be right and it could be a ridiculously high buff for a golem. I just have my doubts.
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