Code of Conduct Changes - Do better at least for optics

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鬼殺し wrote:

OTOH, if you want to talk 'optics' (I really despise that word), seeing moderators and even devs engage in discussions about books, music, other games, anime, etc, can be very uplifting for a community. So I don't think they *want* to shut OT down altogether. It's just a fact that we now live in a world where certain topics just won't end well and so many of us can't escape them even in everyday life.

But is it such a bad thing that we can at least try to with our hobbies and pastimes? And isn't PoE, for better or worse, like most games, a vehicle for escapism?

The main problem is that the rule is far, far too vague. Does it only apply to "real world" topics or game-related topics as well?

Any kind of trade/AH topic is inherently inflammatory at this point (not that we actually need more of them). Discussions about loot boxes are also inherently inflammatory, both from a game perspective and as a political topic. Climate change, privacy issues, corporate governance, etc, etc.

Where does the rule actually start, and where does it end?

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鬼殺し wrote:

OTOH, if you want to talk 'optics' (I really despise that word), seeing moderators and even devs engage in discussions about books, music, other games, anime, etc, can be very uplifting for a community. So I don't think they *want* to shut OT down altogether. It's just a fact that we now live in a world where certain topics just won't end well and so many of us can't escape them even in everyday life.

But is it such a bad thing that we can at least try to with our hobbies and pastimes? And isn't PoE, for better or worse, like most games, a vehicle for escapism?

If you despise 'optics' I equally despise 'inflammatory', because whatever the fuck that means.

I mean you could say that being critical of game mechanics or developmental process is being inflammatory. Hell half the threads in general have posts that could be considered inflammatory right now. (not to mention game chat)

Overall this hyper-sensitivity doesn't help anyone. It makes things worse and worse, and we as a whole are less capable of handling adversity, and differing thoughts, viewpoints, and opinions.

That being said, society isn't TencentGGG's responsibility, and who in the hell wants to take on that burden in addition to their normal jobs.

Concerning optics they just picked a really bad day to implement.

As far as interpretation and vagueness, they are already openly censoring non political, etc. topics. I got censored for complaining about a tech issue.

Whatever you do, don't complain about the delay in patch notes. That'll get whacked too.

jeez what did you guys do lol

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I_NO wrote:

jeez what did you guys do lol

It isn't what we did. It is what we will now do. With the wise decision by GGG now we have no choice but to embrace each others humanity in love and respect. [hug] XXXOOOXOXOXO smooch embrace throw kisses [/hug]

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I_NO wrote:

jeez what did you guys do lol

We taught the horse to sing.

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Sarah_GGG wrote:

There will likely be fringe cases. For example, where the overall discussion in a thread continues to stray into territory breaching our rules: after multiple warnings/staff posts where we would consider closing the entire thread.

So people could organize to get a thread they don't like nuked...

the only effect will be more people moving to reddit, the positive effect for ggg is less moderation needed here.

well. about time to take some time off from these forums.