[3.6] Starter&End Game | Herald Of Agony | 10-25K ES | 3-6M DPS | Occultist | All Content Done Easy

Could someone with experience in building HOAG go thru my hoag? I am at lost as to how to progress on gearing my char.

In short, my build
- only 8.8k ES (LOL)
- using quill rain still, as I cant make the godly bow yet.
- using EE to buff hatred and added fire dmg
- still using skin of the loyal, as 600+ es chest are still out of my league

1.95m dps on trash, and I do red elder, shaper, all t16 maps deathless. But uber elder js very hard for me to do



How do I progress from where I am now to getting at least 12-15k ES to be able to do things safely?
discord id: dejuvenate#5828
Guides
[3.13 Ritual] Flameslinger - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3009295
[3.5 Betrayal] Brutus AW Chieftain - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2320224
[3.4 Delve] Toxic Rain - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2207700
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blg_RealiZe wrote:
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joachimbond wrote:

I did something different with my bow:



because really, i don't need the extra attack speed while clearing, unless i'm releasing a 4-essence monster, and that's rare so i get it. it gets my stacks up much faster on bosses.

you are not getting stacks faster vs bosses
13% attack speed is local on a weapon, it gets multiplied with faster attacks support, attack speed nodes on a tree etc.
22% attack speed if unique nearby mod is global (the same as other additive mods).

So you stack slower in maps and stack at the same speed vs bosses.
sorry, i didn't explain, i'm not using faster attacks. i'm using the slot i would use that for, for flame dash, because blink arrow sucks so bad. i get what you mean about the local vs global though. i didn't know that. since i took the right half of the dark arts wheel, however, i don't feel too bad and have no problem maintaining 37-40 stacks on bosses, if i just flame dash once in a while... there aren't too many bosses that are dangerous where i wouldn't.
Quoting Saltychipmunk:
...I look at the new act 5 boss where you have to hide behind the statues to survive the bullet hell and all I can think is... how the fuck are zombies going to survive that?

They don't know what hiding is... they don't know what dodging is... they are morons.
Last edited by joachimbond on Mar 26, 2019, 12:19:09 AM
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joachimbond wrote:

sorry, i didn't explain, i'm not using faster attacks. i'm using the slot i would use that for, for flame dash, because blink arrow sucks so bad. i get what you mean about the local vs global though. i didn't know that. since i took the right half of the dark arts wheel, however, i don't feel too bad and have no problem maintaining 37-40 stacks on bosses, if i just flame dash once in a while... there aren't too many bosses that are dangerous where i wouldn't.

you are wasting 5 talents on dark arts just for cooldown recovery speed for flame dash? seems crazy to me
I do have flame dash + faster casting too (blink arrow is terrible for this league), and 3 charges is enough for any situation including uber elder and Aul
Also, all 8 talents below elemental equlibrium feels like a waste too. If you need a jewel slot - just pick up 2-points one to the left of charisma

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larsahh_ wrote:
Hey guys!

First thanks to amazing build guide and lot of tips in the latee portion of thread, been following closely!

I'm finally starting to have a blast with this build. I had a very very slow start. My first 6L of this league took 5860 +-5 fuses. I spent so much currency and inner rage trying to get my bow 6led but in the end I finally did it. Next item was bit easier, chest took 260 and after that the build kinda got enjoyable! (My gem vaal luck is about 1/25 to get +1 and last league I had 12 corruption altars where I didn't have a single non brick/poof)

RNG wise this league was the worst possible for me out of 3 years I played this game. Up until tonight, my first uber elder kill I can finally forgive all this bad rng!

Uelder decided to end my pains and drop me a:


I guess the real fun starts now and I can happily push to 100!

Currently having 14.5k ES, think I had 1 stupid 1 shot from Primordial Blocks boss, no idea what happened during add transition phase but other than that this build is pretty invincible. Although HoWA Jugg that I played last league I didn't die a single time on the way to 100 (without a single pure breachstone cheeese). So hard to beat that now! :D

Anyway, thanks for lot of nice tips and gearing options in the league that some guys been posting, it helped me alot!


insaneeeeeeeeeeeeeee lol, i paid 90ex for this jewel last league, how much is it worth right now ? :D
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Minion attack speed ?

It looks like minion attack speed is important for this build, but I'm not clear how it works with HoA. The cast time for the spell is listed as instant with a 1 sec cooldown. That never changes, so I assume it relates to the herald spell and has nothing do with the crawler's attack.

When I look at the offensive specs page for HoA in game, it only lists a couple of things like the chance to poison. Again, there is no information related to the crawler's actual attack or damage.

Is there anything that describes crawler damage mechanics in detail? It's clearly an attack, not a spell, but is it projectile, how many projectiles per attack, base damage per attack, etc. A web search did not turn up much of anything useful.

I'm wondering about this for general understanding, but also in the context of my earlier question about elemental equilibrium. My current attack time on Rain is .23 sec. I assume the crawler is hitting at a lower frequency than that - or could be about the same. If crawler were hitting too much faster, the +25% resist would start to apply often enough (I think) that there would eventually be diminishing returns from EE.

I will play with POB when I get home to see what I can see there, but just wondering whether there is a good source of web info on the crawler's combat mechanics.




The crawler cannot apply EE, only you can so enemies have -50 all the time and if you want to know more about the crawler you can see here:

https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Agony+Crawler
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dejuvenate wrote:
Could someone with experience in building HOAG go thru my hoag? I am at lost as to how to progress on gearing my char.

In short, my build
- only 8.8k ES (LOL)
- using quill rain still, as I cant make the godly bow yet.
- using EE to buff hatred and added fire dmg
- still using skin of the loyal, as 600+ es chest are still out of my league

1.95m dps on trash, and I do red elder, shaper, all t16 maps deathless. But uber elder js very hard for me to do



How do I progress from where I am now to getting at least 12-15k ES to be able to do things safely?
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Most of the ES comes from the body armour. I advise you to check my video on how to craft a good vaal regalia for this build, its actually not that expensive :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQR9khTVP5A
Last edited by GG_TWiF on Mar 26, 2019, 4:30:27 AM
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dejuvenate wrote:
Could someone with experience in building HOAG go thru my hoag? I am at lost as to how to progress on gearing my char.

In short, my build
- only 8.8k ES (LOL)
- using quill rain still, as I cant make the godly bow yet.
- using EE to buff hatred and added fire dmg
- still using skin of the loyal, as 600+ es chest are still out of my league

1.95m dps on trash, and I do red elder, shaper, all t16 maps deathless. But uber elder js very hard for me to do



How do I progress from where I am now to getting at least 12-15k ES to be able to do things safely?
$

Most of the ES comes from the body armour. I advise you to check my video on how to craft a good vaal regalia for this build, its actually not that expensive :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQR9khTVP5A


KPPG, thanks a lot. I will watch it after work.
discord id: dejuvenate#5828
Guides
[3.13 Ritual] Flameslinger - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3009295
[3.5 Betrayal] Brutus AW Chieftain - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2320224
[3.4 Delve] Toxic Rain - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2207700
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larsahh_ wrote:
Hey guys!

First thanks to amazing build guide and lot of tips in the latee portion of thread, been following closely!

I'm finally starting to have a blast with this build. I had a very very slow start. My first 6L of this league took 5860 +-5 fuses. I spent so much currency and inner rage trying to get my bow 6led but in the end I finally did it. Next item was bit easier, chest took 260 and after that the build kinda got enjoyable! (My gem vaal luck is about 1/25 to get +1 and last league I had 12 corruption altars where I didn't have a single non brick/poof)

RNG wise this league was the worst possible for me out of 3 years I played this game. Up until tonight, my first uber elder kill I can finally forgive all this bad rng!

Uelder decided to end my pains and drop me a:


I guess the real fun starts now and I can happily push to 100!

Currently having 14.5k ES, think I had 1 stupid 1 shot from Primordial Blocks boss, no idea what happened during add transition phase but other than that this build is pretty invincible. Although HoWA Jugg that I played last league I didn't die a single time on the way to 100 (without a single pure breachstone cheeese). So hard to beat that now! :D

Anyway, thanks for lot of nice tips and gearing options in the league that some guys been posting, it helped me alot!


insaneeeeeeeeeeeeeee lol, i paid 90ex for this jewel last league, how much is it worth right now ? :D


Hey. What about my jewel; is not that good? :D :P

Question about bow crafting. I don't have currency for all mods at this moment. Now it's bow with vicious projectiles and two suffix mods. If I add +1 gems now, I can freely craft attack speed, and proceed with prefixes cannot be changed later. Right?
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Loudstorm wrote:
Question about bow crafting. I don't have currency for all mods at this moment. Now it's bow with vicious projectiles and two suffix mods. If I add +1 gems now, I can freely craft attack speed, and proceed with prefixes cannot be changed later. Right?

sure
Just "cannot roll attack modifiers" and bestiary craft "add a prefix, remove random suffix"

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