Is it worth deep delve?

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DamageIncorporated wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

at least 270 which is where aul will spawn.

Uh, I killed him at like 70. It doesn't have to be 270+.

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tramshed wrote:

Deep delving is worth

Worth IT for crying out loud. Worth IT.

I guess poe db is wrong then.

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kestak wrote:

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tramshed wrote:

Deep delving is worth, and only becomes more worth the deeper you go. The problem a lot of people encounter is that between 100-300 or so the costs are extremely high and the rewards quite low, which discourages a lot of people. Once you get to where cities are spawning quite reliably though, the map returns are pretty extreme. Youll be bulk selling t16s in no time.

One important thing to note is your profit sources change quite a bit between shallow and deep delving. Shallow delving you are basically just wall farming for fossils. Deep you are farming for cities and the boxes.

As you get deeper more boxes spawn both at the end of delves and in the cities. Where a city at 200 will have one lobe with five boxes, and the other with 2, a city at 500 is going to have five boxes at both ends, and the middle areas will also have boxes more reliably. The increased spawn rates of currency and fossil rooms combined with the extra boxes make them quite lucrative.

Greetings,

I need some guidance please. I miss Delve league and the most enjoyable play in this league for me is Delving. However, the sulphite problem (And I have been quite vocal about it) made me stick to 200-300 just so I an enjoy more delving. However, because the cost is more than the reward, I decided to do a lot of 150ish dark delving.

Are you saying that I should go to the 500ish dept (My build can make it for sure) and I will be able to sustain the incredibly annoying purchase of scarabs and be able to delve more?

Also, is there a guide somewhere (or a thread) that explains what I would find at these depts?

Thank you

Yes, definately. You are at the spot where it sucks. As you go deeper the cost increases become small and eventually cap, making the deeper you go that much more efficient. For instance, a 1block run at 200 is about 700 per block iirc, at 400 is its only about 800 and the rewards are much better.

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Nephalim wrote:

I guess poe db is wrong then.

Yep, cuz it most certainly doesn't have to be 270+ to get Aul. The likelyhood of finding him is higher though.

The compressed the level scaling in delve quite a bit. I dont think the poedb breakpoints have been adjusted for that.

All interested delver's should listen to what Octavian has to say about deep delving:

Investment and Rewards in Path of Exile [Baeclast Highlights]

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Arrowneous wrote:

All interested delver's should listen to what Octavian has to say about deep delving:

Investment and Rewards in Path of Exile [Baeclast Highlights]

nice video...

its always good to see all the 4 elite gods in a single video...

it would be excellent if they can add more pple like cutedog and zazaran

I dont even see how past 90-100 would even be viable to obtain with sulphite...

I mean i do like to go sideways somewhat but sulphite is always the issue

Is there some sort of trick im missing to reliable get 10k sulphite to warrant spending 500 per node on? Are the rewards really all that good...are people needing to use several hundred resonators or something?

I mean even if i had the sulphite to warrant pushing to where my build struggles....the azurite id need to mitigate darkness, and the jam packed tight halls would be insane...

Realistically what am i missing out chilling around 85-100 going sideways for good rewards vs pushing (other than the street cred)

Like with everything POE, they seem to put many mechanics to thwart your progress as possible and its pretty restricting of a system thats endless.

The biggest thing im missing here is how people are sustaining the high sulphite needs to go that deep, and why they would need that many fossils...

going deep has basically nothing to do with fossils, its about currency and maps.
you get the sulphite but spamming maps. you don't even need to use the scarabs, though obviously thats way way faster (but has a price attributed to it).

i have only used one sulphite scarab (for achievement) and im getting down to 260 depth. you just spam maps and do niko anytime he pops on atlas. if you're doing t16 maps he'll pop on t14+ maps, giving the highest amount of sulphite.

essentially you roll those maps to have the highest quant ever and you'll get high amounts. i get 1400-1600 per node from niko, often 3 per map and i'll get him a few times a day if i play a decent amount.

right now im not really getting enough sulphite to explore anything, just diving as straight down as i possibly can to get as deep as i can go. once i get deep enough i'll start seeing city nodes more often to collect super amounts of maps and stuff which is just pure money.

it costs a lot of time and money to get to running elder maps, but once you do its like printing currency. invest as much as you can into your elder maps (4 sextants, prophecies if you want, chisel, rerolls) and it pays off insanely.

I usually do just +85 sideways for fossils and 82 delve for maps on biome cities but sustaining sulphite on deeper is hard yes so i rather stay on lower depth and go sideways for fossils.

Currently at delve 600-700 i can say its worth but only if u have some ex's that supports your bad days.cuz some day u will profit some days u dont.got 1 item that worth 15 ex and then another item that worth 9 ex.but last 3 days im losing exalteds for scarabs and thats all.its about your play style, i like to challenge and this "betrayal" gives no challanges.

So if u think at deep delves u will find a lot of fossils thats a mistake.cuz i get lesser fossils than i got at lower lvls.but if u find some "contains fossil" nodes u can take your scarab money back from that fossils cuz sometimes u get fossil that worths +1 ex.


In the end, is all about your luck.killed kurgal "abyss boss"maybe 12 times got always items that worth 40-100c.killed kurgal to my friend in his first kill he got item thats worth 4.5ex.

But i agree with people at deeper delve u get the money from cities and bosses.not from fossils.

Btw guys dont believe the idiots who says on their videos "i would still buy a scarab even its 100c".yes u can still make profit by only running at depth 50-150.but will you enjoy the game with this stupid idea?delve isnt rewarding as it looks.i prefer syndicate farming if u want currency.with syndicate u can make 300c in a hour if u are fast enough.