[3.5] Occultist Vortex/Cold Snap ES/CI - Deathless and Safe Uber Elder and T16's

The question that most likely was answered already, but i haven't found an answer:
What about bonechill?
Can i, for example, replace either orb of storm or storm brand in my weap with bonechill linked with frost bomb to get a damage buff for vortex?

Also, just to clarify as i haven't used EE ever before:
With "Trigger a Socketed Spell when you Use a Skill" the scenario is:
we use Vortex, enemies are getting hit with vortex so they get +25% cold res, but, at the same time, weapon mod triggers bomb, brand and orb:
-bomb's waves are not hits so they do nothing apart from lowering res
-orb and brand constantly hit the target with lightning and override +25% cold res with -50% cold res
-vortex's DOT does not override the -50% further since damage over time does not apply EE
Is it right?
Last edited by TeModen#2916 on Jan 17, 2019, 11:02:04 AM
Can someone provide POB settings to accurately calculate shaper DPS?
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TeModen wrote:
The question that most likely was answered already, but i haven't found an answer:
What about bonechill?
Can i, for example, replace either orb of storm or storm brand in my weap with bonechill linked with frost bomb to get a damage buff for vortex?

Also, just to clarify as i haven't used EE ever before:
With "Trigger a Socketed Spell when you Use a Skill" the scenario is:
we use Vortex, enemies are getting hit with vortex so they get +25% cold res, but, at the same time, weapon mod triggers bomb, brand and orb:
-bomb's waves are not hits so they do nothing apart from lowering res
-orb and brand constantly hit the target with lightning and override +25% cold res with -50% cold res
-vortex's DOT does not override the -50% further since damage over time does not apply EE
Is it right?


Its not EE alone but elemental overload which needs crit to work. So yeah its not wise to change any gem in your weapon.
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TeModen wrote:
The question that most likely was answered already, but i haven't found an answer:
What about bonechill?
Can i, for example, replace either orb of storm or storm brand in my weap with bonechill linked with frost bomb to get a damage buff for vortex?

Also, just to clarify as i haven't used EE ever before:
With "Trigger a Socketed Spell when you Use a Skill" the scenario is:
we use Vortex, enemies are getting hit with vortex so they get +25% cold res, but, at the same time, weapon mod triggers bomb, brand and orb:
-bomb's waves are not hits so they do nothing apart from lowering res
-orb and brand constantly hit the target with lightning and override +25% cold res with -50% cold res
-vortex's DOT does not override the -50% further since damage over time does not apply EE
Is it right?


From main page, to answer your question regarding Bonechill -

Spoiler
Second Skill (4 Link) - Vaal Cold Snap

This skill can be used to reliably put Bonechill on enemies for more damage, as well as be used to innitiate or clear out emeies that you do not want to run face first into. It is a great secondary skill and provides a lot of utility. Many other builds opt to go for 2x 6 links, giving up the shield, but I do NOT find that necessary, and prefer the extra HP instead.

Vaal Cold Snap - Efficacy - Bonechill - Hypothermia
~ Raz
Last edited by Razero#3099 on Jan 17, 2019, 11:53:18 AM
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Razero wrote:
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Example257 wrote:
Today i upgraded my Storm Brand, Orb of Storms and Frostbomb to 20% Quality and now it say "skill cant be used"......any idea why?


Because theyre in your weapon with 'Trigger a socketed spell when you use a skill'.


lol yeah after i i rearranged the games, my skillbar got a bit confused.....and me too
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Trentemoller wrote:
well look at what the temple gave me



The cold leech is global right? What I'm wondering is, is it worth it to use this helmet + Ghost Reaver over my current setup, even though GR gives %50 less ES recharge? It seems I give up a decent amount of ES regen, but gain much more defense/survivability in terms of spell leech. Is 0.5% a lot? Or does Ghost Reaver fuck up Occultist ES regen too much to not be worth, even with 0.5% leech?


Reddit answered, you cannot leech from DOT so the corrupt is basically worthless FeelsBadMan. Good thing I asked though, otherwise I would have kept playing with 50% less recharge and thinking I was leeching with my DOTs
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Razero wrote:
From main page, to answer your question regarding Bonechill -

Spoiler
Second Skill (4 Link) - Vaal Cold Snap

This skill can be used to reliably put Bonechill on enemies for more damage, as well as be used to innitiate or clear out emeies that you do not want to run face first into. It is a great secondary skill and provides a lot of utility. Many other builds opt to go for 2x 6 links, giving up the shield, but I do NOT find that necessary, and prefer the extra HP instead.

Vaal Cold Snap - Efficacy - Bonechill - Hypothermia


i'm legally blind. Thanks! And the one who told me that orb and brand are there not only for EE but for EO as well, thank you too:)
Seeing as the "2ex+ weapon craft" tab seems not to get updated in the original post, I was wondering what is the best way to isolate the main crafting suffix and prefix for multicrafting:

- +XX% Increased Damage when on Full Life
- Minions deal XX% increased Damage

those two stats are enough to farm uber elder but I feel like min/maxing this build. Also, if there are other crafting options for weapon multicrafting that are more damage than just those two stats, I would be happy to hear about them.
Doesn't vortex trigger EE, thus handicapping its damage?
Last edited by Gosupancake#5103 on Jan 17, 2019, 1:51:14 PM
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Gosupancake wrote:
Doesn't vortex trigger EE, thus handicapping its damage?


orb of storms and storm brand are hitting very often taking it to lightning instead

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