[3.5-3.12 + 3,18 HC] Pure Herald of Agony Jugg. All content. Videos+Link to 3.14 & 3.15 Updates

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Orion72 wrote:

Planning to run Hoag in 3.12, but haven't decided whether to start with it. Not able to post a definitive 3.12 version without some experimenting, but I expect it to remain viable with some variation.

The change to Gluttony is interesting. On the one hand, we lose the Frenzy charges and the extra accuracy and a tiny bit of life on hit--offensive nerf. On the other hand, if we can find another way to curse on hit, that may potentially replace the lost offense and then some without needing to get an extra curse.

-O

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-Hexproof monsters can now be cursed, but will ignore the effect of any Hexes applied to them (previously curses could not be applied).

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JohnOldman wrote:

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Orion72 wrote:

Planning to run Hoag in 3.12, but haven't decided whether to start with it. Not able to post a definitive 3.12 version without some experimenting, but I expect it to remain viable with some variation.

The change to Gluttony is interesting. On the one hand, we lose the Frenzy charges and the extra accuracy and a tiny bit of life on hit--offensive nerf. On the other hand, if we can find another way to curse on hit, that may potentially replace the lost offense and then some without needing to get an extra curse.

-O

The life and mana on hit actually have better values than old lvl 30 poachers if you invest on fertile catalysts witch also raise the implicit life and life roll up to +148 flat life, additionally now it has full values against unique enemies or any other monster with reduced curse effect on them.

Also because of this patch note Gluttony still works against hexproof enemies:

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-Hexproof monsters can now be cursed, but will ignore the effect of any Hexes applied to them (previously curses could not be applied).

Considering you were using thief's torment you can now free up 2 ring slots and a curse slot so you should be on a better spot if using gluttony this patch compared to before for your build. mark of submission will have you covered for the first few days of the league and later you can upgrade to a decent curse on hit ring.

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Orion72 wrote:

I think you have it right. Mark of submission is an old-league item only and may not be available right away. For that and other reasons (I'm excited about a new take on a different old idea) I am not going to do this build right at league start, but I have definite plans to run it sometime this league. If anyone else is running it at start, would be happy to see feedback on your progress / any new ideas here in the forum.

Good league start to all of you!

-O

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JohnOldman wrote:

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Orion72 wrote:

I think you have it right. Mark of submission is an old-league item only and may not be available right away. For that and other reasons (I'm excited about a new take on a different old idea) I am not going to do this build right at league start, but I have definite plans to run it sometime this league. If anyone else is running it at start, would be happy to see feedback on your progress / any new ideas here in the forum.

Good league start to all of you!

-O

Lots of them drop every league and its always quite cheap, worst case if you are ssf you just delve long paths on the first few levels breaking walls and it will drop in 1-2 hours of farming at worst.