Path of Exile: Betrayal Patch Notes

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vio wrote:

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Unseensenpai wrote:

GGG nerfing wander mf's but poets still broken. Thx ggg.

do you really think they will not take care of arc, blade vortex and poet's pen?

Did you even read the patch notes? Maybe they will but not in, 3.5.0.

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SeCKSEgai wrote:

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killodoggy wrote:

Quill rain nerf - This was necessary for many reasons. Quill rain can hit more than any other bow. Toxic rain and explosive arrow are not the only useful things. Cast on crit builds that focus spell damage needed something to stop quill rain from being the best bow for cast on crit builds in the end game.

It wasn't necessary - it was excessive. You could bypass the less weapon damage multiplier by setting up that didn't rely on the weapon damage primarily - now that the multiplier hits the final damage output I wouldn't even consider using it for its actual intended level range.

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killodoggy wrote:

Indigon nerf - The cap was needed cause it was getting insane dps levels from experts. It still looks like the most powerful offensive spellcaster helmet, but now people have to use certain gameplay styles to get the insane amount of mana used to get near or at 2000% increased spell damage.

Did you even try building one yourself? Cutedog's setup was hitting headhunter territory.

I tried it myself for proof of concept. Even with several adjustments and versions tested, its just impractical for most players to hit those levels with an Indigon. Even at almost 5000 mana it wasn't particularly practical in rebuilding and maintaining the mana spent numbers. And I was testing against shaper guardians with mods, all vaaled.

I think 40% may have been too harsh for quill rain, but I am guessing they never intended it to be an end game weapon and that is why they are trying to take away its end game potential for most builds. I would like to see them make a unique bow around 2.2 aps max that had good COC options to compensate for quill rain loss for most COC builds. My pc is decent, but quill rain can push it too far sometimes and slowing down a little while still having the fast action would be fun.

I actually plan on using a bow COC build next round and I was planning on using quill rain unless I have to upgrade due to low dps. With indigon I should be able to get more mana used up and gained to max out indigons power when I use quill rains massive attack speed. It is a niche build that is probably not end game viable, but I just plan on having fun with it.

My mana numbers were probably exaggerated on deadeye. I was assuming level 23 split arrow. +2 arrows on split arrow enchant. Massive attack speed bonuses. 4 chains for 5 hits. That may not be survivable to use on end game content. I am more of a middle to low map content for fun player. But assuming I didn't do math wrong and you have right setup the indigon is still possible to max or almost max its dps potential on at least 1 build.

Also remember 500% spell damage only requires 4k mana spent in last 4 seconds now which is doable for any ascendancy class who knows what they are doing. I think we should hold off saying it is completely useless since no helmet has competed for top spellcaster dps for a long time.

Lel get rekt quill rain

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Fixed some typso.

Well played

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Bex_GGG wrote:

Haku, Elreon, Tora, Catarina, Vagan, Leo and Vorici are no longer Forsaken Masters. In fact, they've disappeared entirely, and we're worried about them.

What did you do Catarina? What did you dooooo??

another indigon nerf?

this beast gonna be even more valuable :D

Hell yeah. This is gonna be fun! Good weeerk GGG!
I got diamonds!

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Kostax wrote:

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vio wrote:

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Unseensenpai wrote:

GGG nerfing wander mf's but poets still broken. Thx ggg.

do you really think they will not take care of arc, blade vortex and poet's pen?

Did you even read the patch notes? Maybe they will but not in, 3.5.0.

do the patch notes say anything about droprates of poet's pen being lower than kaom's heart?

additionally, ggg is known to deliver sustantial nerfs after a league started to make people play other games. like with delve boss taxies last league.

i wouldn't put any bets on arc mines/bv remaining untouched even after the league started.

Oh noooooooooooo two of my builds got nerfed hardddddddddd

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Alcsaar wrote:

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Neferpitou12 wrote:

So toxic rain is basically dead with quill rain nerf?

how does 40% nerf early game make it dead???

Imbeciles...

Uh....what?

Quill Rain was often used for late game. Yes, you can use fossil crafted + bows alternatively, but quill rain was still very popular - not to mention fossil crafting a bow that is as good or better than quill rain was is not an inexpensive endeavor and certainly not a mid to early late game option.

40% less damage is absolutely going to destroy it.

That's the point. A level SIX weapon that isn't eve rare as nearly BiS for a lot of these builds along with CoC changes is too much value. Kind of agree it's a bit too much, could've been a nerf to crit or removal thereof..