Skill Reveal: War Banner and Dread Banner

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Maldenic wrote:

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GrayNightz wrote:

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szpilka wrote:

GIVE US NORMAL KEY BAR (LIKE IN WOW, SWTOR AND OTHER MMORPGS), YOU ARE ADDING NEW SKILLS, BUT WE ONLY HAVE ACCES TO 8 HOTKEYS

Requests like yours are why GGG never does this kind of stuff.
Make it more Diablo, WoW, Aion, LoL, Fifa!

And yet GGG is adding yet another unique ascendancy-skill synergy to the game in the form of the Champion-banner passive. Making any skill playable on any class is a philosophy that GGG is increasingly moving away from.

GGG evidently doesn't mind abandoning their original formula.

Okay, but why though?
Just because one ascendancy will have 1 bonus on 1 skill, why does that mean it isn't playable in any class? For once, it's a boost. It's not like being a Champion gives you the power to use banners, it just boosts them up. I fully intend to use them for my RF builds at least in the leveling process, maybe I'll look into that War one for even endgame.

Ascendancy, from the day it was introduced to the game, has always been about giving classes slight boosts on specific areas over other builds. It's not like pathfinders are the only ones that use potions, chieftains aren't the only fire totem builds, saboteurs are far from being the only trap meta and crazily enough the most powerful elemental golem builds don't even use elementalist.

If you want to center your build around banners 100%, it sounds like being a Champion will be a good idea; in the other hand, why force yourself to use it? Why not, for example, mix banners with the power of the slayer ascendancy, since it sounds like Crimson banner will make impaling universal? Or, if impaling is reserved to projectile skills, I see more raiders making use of that crimson banner than champions would.

My first thought was "what about my wing MTX?" That's gonna look like ass I bet.

And given that enemies have been using banners for a bit now, this move is totally unsurprising.

As long as the Steel skills have a high chance to impale compared to any skill with dread banner and that the stats are following up, im happy with the results

All physical damage taken? Like Blade Vortex? If so, this sounds PERFECT for the BV/Summoner I'm making.

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tyago04 wrote:

Okay, but why though?
Just because one ascendancy will have 1 bonus on 1 skill, why does that mean it isn't playable in any class?

They are just the common cry babys.

Btw, PoE is no MMORPG like the named one. It is a Hack & Slay, Dungeon Crawler or Action RPG! And there is no singel Hack & Slay I know which has more then 8 Hotkeys !!!
STOP posting this hotkey bullshit! We don't need more.

I more and more get the feeling as if these guys are Blizzard Trolls who try hard to erode PoEs forum :(.

trying to make pure phys playable by giving them new toys and mechanics instead of just balancing the gap.

applies to you and allies? vaal double strike much? that is going to be utterly fucking bonkers with this. getting buffs from banners as well as already being powerful. interesting.

New buttons for tens of new secondary skills when?

I watched the whole video and still don't see what they're talking about.

something banner, something dread ? are these new skills???

That sure looks interesting! :)

nice new skills