Bestiary, Delve and Incursion Content in Betrayal

Seems nice how the content of the past leagues is being added.

As for incursion content: way this is implemented seems just good (but tormented spirit room and strongbox room dont add anything unique that isnt in the rest of the game so wish they could go).

As for Delve content: seems good, but won't know till we know Niko spawn rates and what scarabs are. For me and others who disliked Delve, i guess it's now a forced thing you have to do every league to get crafting options. Yay to dying in the dark to lag from a shitty pc and/or just constant stress cause you can't stop running if pc works fine. Thanks.

As for Bestiary content: big improvement, very big. Will have to see how relevant the beast crafting will be based on spawn rates though.

I just wish we (people who played those leagues) could have the option to start over with 0 progress for certain or all masters. I would like the feeling to unlock everything from scratch in this overhauled system (including capturing every beast for the first time). Since master levels are now account bound this shouldn't hurt the playerbase too much since you would only have to do it once from here on out and might actually retain players a bit longer in 3.5 i reckon.

Pity we have to grind crafting options every league again though, which might now be rng based instead of classical grinding, but we'll see.
Soooo haven't read the entire thread, but I'm assuming this is coming to Standard too?
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Embrace the vaal and the corruption! Only then, you will be bless by Atziri. That's how I got a Headhunter in the Atziri Apex of Sacrifice!
Can we make a request for the overhaul of other past leagues as well now? If so, based on my experience starting in 1.3 i'd like:

- Abyss: seems fine as is; doesn't need progression and just randomly sometimes spawns good loot.
- Harbinger; could this be added like the incursions in 3.5?
- Legacy; not good for core i reckon
- Breach; could this be added like incursions in 3.5 as well?
- Essence; like incursion but only with screaming essence tier spawns. Essences currently only add clutter because of all the tier of which you only want to use the screaming+ tiers which hardly drop. Alternatively integrate it into niko's mine as encounters maybe?
- Prophecy; is already added : )
- Perandus; its mechanic was taken over by the artifacts chamber in Atzoatl, then that chamber was nerfed. Revert the nerf on that chamber a bit please...
- Talisman; i really liked it for some reason even though the corruption on every item made it pure rng and not satisfying i think. I'm not smart enough to think of a way to integrate this, but i want those mods back...
- Warbands and everything prior to that is already integrated in core and seems fine as is (not dominantly present, not too rare either) with the exception of;
- Invasion; there were some BS hardcore unfriendly bosses in there. I liked bomber crab (vaal DD) a lot; could this just go core like Anarchy (but only start in maps; maybe shaper made some mistakes and this is the result)?

If you read all this; thanks. If you have comments; lmk
Last edited by DistantBliss on Nov 21, 2018, 1:10:45 AM
And Diablo 3 released Necro xD. And it took them more then one year...
My only concern here is with delve. With the amount of boss appearing is heavily gated in rng. As 2 months play through on 350+ level i did not see any of the end game boss even i've been far travel to left and right.

Niko's favour level is based on the deepest depth you have delved to in any league.


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What!? C'mon where's the mobile masters? I want to do my masters on my cellular phone! Bliz..get wrecked hahaha die a slow death.
Quick questions:

1. Will I need to recapture beasts to craft more items or do I just defeat them again to recraft another item? (It was a massive RNG gate to get the beasts and I disliked beast crafting a lot).

2. Will I share the delve mine layout and/or sulphite across characters within each league?

3. Unlocking beast craft recipe in standard surely won't make a difference in other leagues right? You will still need to capture them to craft a mod in the league right?

Anyway it sounds very promising

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