[3.5] Indigon Life/MoM Mjolner done right (all content viable)

My bad, the question I asked was answered in the OP!

I got a Voll's Devotion, and I plan to start this build soon. Between this one and Jugg version, which one you think is the best?

And thank you for the guides!

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ESCasati wrote:

I got a Voll's Devotion, and I plan to start this build soon. Between this one and Jugg version, which one you think is the best?

And thank you for the guides!

There no best. Depends what u want from the build.

Indigon Templar/Inquisitor vs non Indigon Marauder/Juggernaut vs non Indigon Witch/Elementalist. It is more like rock paper scissors.

Left to right from best to worst:

Single target DPS: Inq, Witch, Jugg
Clear speed: Witch, Jugg, Inq
Tankiness: Jugg, Inq, Witch

If u plan to farm the big boys most of your time (Guardians, Shaper, Elders) - pick Inquisitor. Its tanky enough to do it all deathless and on decent speed. And hes a grandpa, Santa Clause, you know... Christmass... etc...

If u plan to farm Red Maps most of the time than pick Witch. She is the fastest pack clearing mashine and possibly, for this purpose, one of the fastest builds currently in-game. Only Chuck Norris clears faster.

If u plan to play HC or just want lvl the char high as possible (even all the way up to 100) and still do decent dmg (sooner or later everything dies anyway) than pick Jugg. He will die maybe once per galactic cycle.

Hi man, merry christmas!

let me preface this saying that im not playing your build, eventhough it looks awesome, but i am taking alot of inspiration in how you utilize Indigon. To which i have a question.

I noticed you had a youtube video with indepth mechanics on indigon, but i cant seem to find any deep explanation to how you calculate the 0.34 action time to spend one chunk of mana.

Im toying with an indigon build my self and i simply cant figure out the math to hit the correct action speed for my current spell. (Winter Orb)

I have a cast speed of 7.12 casts per second, and a mana cost of 148.
My rolls on indigon are 55/25

Would the math then look like something like this:

This is set up in cast sequence where the numerical values represent each cast while holding down Winter Orb:

1: 148 = 148 mana spent

2: 148 * 1.55 = 229.4 mana spent

So at this point the mana spent for 1 and 2 is 148 + 229.4 = 377 mana spent thus:

3: 229.4 * 1.55 = 355.57 mana spent

At which point, mana spent for tick 2 and 3 is 229 + 355 = 732.57, so next multiplier is 2x 55% thus:

4: 355.57 * 2.10 = 746 mana spent

At which point, mana spent from tick 3 and 4 is 355 + 746 = 1101. so next multiplier is (1101 / 200) * 55%, which is 5.5 * 55% thus a multiplier of 2.75:

5: 746 * 2.75 = 2051 mana spent

At which point, mana spent from tick 4 and 5 is 746 + 2051 = 2797, so next multiplier would be (2797 / 200) * 55% which is 13.98 * 55% thus a multiplier of 7.68

6: 2051 * 7.68 = 15,751 which obviously is not going to be able to cast, and its here im getting problems..

The math here just seems wrong, but my point in making this was to get the action time per chunk, would i just need to add all of the total mana cost per tick within 100ms together, then divide the total amount of mana spent which in this case would be: 148 + 229 + 355 + 746 + 2051 = 3529.
So to find the total amount of 200 chunks within these 6 ticks:
3529 / 200 = 17.64 so we have 17 chunks spent within 1 second, is it just 17 / 100 = 0.17 so an action time of 0.17?

As stupid this might seem, this is AT ALL not an actual depiction of how it feels ingame to actually play with channeling skills and indigon. It seems as if the channeling skill snapshots the initial mana cost, and whilst the tooltip mana cost still increases, you actually dont spend more mana, thus in turn cant proc any more chunks of indigon.. HOWEVER; if i click, release, click release repeat with my mouse i can get similar results..

I need your help...

Sorry for long post. again MERRY XMAS

@Yunojelly

Well it was theorycrafted in my Juggernaut thread and verified in-game by Doklol. This calculated action time is strictly for Cyclone because as we found out (Doklol found out;) action time on Cyclone depends on movement speed rather than attack speed. Heres the original post from Juggs thread:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362/page/235#p15803145

Friend has an insane Precursor's Emblem and was wondering the mechanics behind using it with this build?
The ring rolled 5% per end and power charge. Third mod was 1% dmg as extra lightning dmg per power charge.


Would discharge apply these bonuses before the discharge or...?

Hey RicoKGB, i love the guide and plan on using it this season, what would be a good leveling setup until im able to use the gear/find it??

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fathomz wrote:

Friend has an insane Precursor's Emblem and was wondering the mechanics behind using it with this build?
The ring rolled 5% per end and power charge. Third mod was 1% dmg as extra lightning dmg per power charge.


Would discharge apply these bonuses before the discharge or...?

All dmg modifiers are applied to Discharge before the blast.

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deadmaker99 wrote:

Hey RicoKGB, i love the guide and plan on using it this season, what would be a good leveling setup until im able to use the gear/find it??

This is the hard part. Lvling this untill Mjolner gear is pain in the ass. I lvled back in Abyss as CwC Tendrils and than worked my way slowly as crit spellcaster using Arc. However after that I realised it would be much easier to lvl as crit ele bladeflurry. My friend tried that and said it was much smoother experience.

Ascendancy picture isn't loading for me. Anyone fill me in on the priority?

Thanks :)